16 February 2001


New members this week are Terry Roberts from Swindon, Ian Berry from West Swindon, and Taff James from Bruggen. Welcome to the OBA!

From: Bill Nangle
Subject: Re: Old Boys Briefs 020901
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:19:39 -0800

Lovely weather out on the far west coast Tony, 12 degrees under blue skies today, Tulips are coming up and the roses in bloom. Shame about your snow, but you will live back there in the far east :-)

I had a look at the photo of the advanced air movements course you have just added. Saw a face I haven't seen in 22 years. Nev Whitham is the bloke standing in the centre of the rear rank. I was his roomie at Lyenham for a year before we moved across the road to new quarters and single rooms.

Nev was chasing some WRAF Nurse at Wroughton at the time and most nights arrived home about 10 minutes before we started shift. I think he ended up marrying her, he certainly invested enough cash in her to buy her!



[Editor's Note: I trust Nev ended up happily ever after!]

From: Rick Loveridge
Subject: Advanced Controllers Photo.
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:18:30 EST

The beard is Flt Lt Dick Castle, the big 'tache, bottom left is possibly Graham "Woolly" Cotton, don't think he was ever MAMS. I knew him, if it is indeed he, in Ottawa, 1985.

It has been a pleasure to watch this site grow, I think I was about member No.5. Is it just me, or is there a lack of officer's mess subscribers?

Many thanks for your efforts, I enjoy reading everything on the site.


[Editor's Note: I have updated the photo - thanks. As far as the Officer's Mess subscribers to the OBA are concerned - there are a lot more than you may think at first blush. We have everything from Pilot Officer to Group Captain and lots in between - including a Canadian Navy Commander - Ex MAMS Flt Sgt.]


From: Ken Davie
Subject: Re: Old Boys Briefs 020901
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:13:28 -0800 (PST)

Hi, Tony,

Edited indeed, how dare you! Ian Stacey's story reminded me of a Pilot intercom message as we were traveling to places now forgotten. " Good afternoon, chaps, we are making good time. In about an hour, we will be hitting the English Channel, metaphorically speaking, of course!"

Wonderful wit



From: Bob Dixon
Subject: UKMAMS ASSOC Council Meeting
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:44:33 EST


Just to update the input by John Belcher about Council and Meet and Greet dates. The Council Meeting for 9 March has now been brought forward to the 2nd March to the same date as the Meet and Greet in the Wynch Inn


Bob Dixon

[Editors Note: The changes have been made - thanks.]


RAF Bruggen is scheduled to be handed over to the Army in July of this year. The following appeared in the website Guestbook:

Saturday 02/10/2001 5:55:18pm
Name:           Whaty Campbell
Homepage Title: The RAF Bruggen Closing Down Bash
Homepage URL:
Referred By:    Just Surfed In
Location:     RAF Bruggen
Comments: Tony I've just moved the site of "The Big One" aka The Closing Down bash. If possible could you try it your side and if its ok with you, link on your link page. Much appreciated.

Attention all Movers and Ex-Movers, details of this years "Dave Wall" and "The Big One" available on

Best Regards


[Editor's Note: Thanks Whaty - 'tis done]


From: Ian Berry
Subject: Contact Addresses - The Original Foxtrot Team
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:28:13 -0000


Many thanks for your e-mail. Although my son's been on the net for over a year I've just updated my computer c/w modem and am now learning the black art. As time progresses and my scanner is repaired I may be able to provide some photographs.

On reading the articles in the web site brought back many memories. For your info I did a tour in El Adem and had a great time - it's the people you're with, not the place that makes it good or bad. Whilst there I was a member of TEARS (The El Adem Radio Service) where I was a controller - I was the one who played the music, tape recorders, tuned the radios etc.In 1993 a year after our big reunion I was contacted by John Moir who was the Director in my days and he was trying to track people down and form an association. His efforts were succesful and we've had three reunions since. TEARS now has its own web site for anyone who's interested:

Although I have a lot of addresses including phone nos., not a lot of people have an e-mail address as yet, although we both know some have but have not yet shared it. Anyhow if there is anyone particular you want to track down I'll try and help. The following is to whet your appetite as they're your other team members I remember from Abingdon days, only Mac Maclean is missing:

Dave Barton now retired with lots of white hair and a goatee beard. Does an awful lot of writing including his memoirs. His wife is a retired Headmistress. Normally good for articles if you ask him nicely!

John Evans also now retired. John had a kidney removed several years ago but is keeping in good health and still socialises with Dave Eggleton. Don Wickham was a member of the Association but sadly died about 5 years ago. Believe it or not John has since married Don's widow.

Tony Moore BEM He's now out of the mob and still working in civvy street. Haven't seen Tony for years although his daughter came to UKMAMS on a work experience venture several years ago - she may now be an officer!

George Lynes married Ausilia an Italian girl in 1983, I went to the wedding in Italy. George made WO before retiring in 1996 to become a mature student. He's just completing a transport degree at Liverpool University before becoming a tram driver at Blackpool!

Chris Twyman now lives and works in the Eastern USA. He still quotes his title as Sqn Ldr although I suspect he's retired from the RAF. He has an e-mail address but I don't have it on hand. He actually works for the Royal Navy. A message to John Belcher may produce a contact no.

Hopefully these names will get the loins stirring! Good hunting, speak to you later.


[Editor's Note: Many thanks Ian, although I shudder to think how it would stir anybody's loins! I would be interested to know why Tony Moore was awarded the BEM - if anyone out there knows please share it with us.]


I did ask Ian about Tony's BEM, and also commented on his memory and/or record keeping.....

From: Ian Berry
Subject: Letter
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:43:16 -0000


I don't know how Tony Moore got his BEM but I believe it was during his time at ACAC at RAF Upavon.

Fortunately I am blessed with a good memory, backed up by my log book and contact with others of a similar ilk.

At the big big reunion we had in 1992 I was able to meet such people on your web site as Ian Stacey, Pete Underwood and already knew or did tours with Steve Maunder, Willie Crossley, Steve (Bubbles) Williams, Pig Clarke and of course Boot. Incredibly I also know Andy Jack as we served together in Cyprus!

Cheers for now,



From: Steve Jolley
Subject: Email address for Spider Jolley
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:35:54 -0000

Hi there Tony,

Just a quick line to say that the only email addresses that I can be contacted on are: , & icq number 31692925.

All the best,


From: Shuggie Shewan
Subject: Military Humour
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:39:33 -0000


It's an old 'un and hopefully no-one will take offence.


MSF Kinloss

Military Humour

Thank you for calling the British Military Help Line. I'm sorry but all of our units are out at the moment or are otherwise engaged. Please leave a message with your country, name of organization, the region, the specific crisis and a number at which we can call you. As soon as we have sorted out the Falklands, the Balkans, Iraq, Northern Ireland, the Y2K Bug, marching up and down the streets of London and compulsory consideration of others training, we will return your call.

Please speak after the tone, or if you require more information, please listen to the following options:

If your crisis is small, and close to the sea, press 1 for the Royal Marines.

If your concern is distant, with a temperate climate and good hotels and can be solved by one or two low risk, high altitude bombing runs, please press 2 for the Royal Air Force. Please note this service is not available after 1630 hours Monday through Fridays or on weekends. Special consideration will be given to customers requiring satellite or stealth technology who can provide additional research and development funding.

If your enquiry concerns a situation that can be resolved by a bit of Grey funnel, bunting, flags and a really good marching band, please write, well in advance, to the Royal Navy. Please note that Tomahawk Missile service is extremely limited and will be provided on a first-come, first-served basis.

If your enquiry is not urgent, please press 3 for the Rapid Reaction Force.

If you are in real hot trouble, please press 4 and your call will be routed to the United Kingdom Mobile Air Movements Squadron. Please note that a compulsory credit check will be required to ensure you can afford the inherent TDY costs. Also be aware that UKMAMS may bill your account at any time and is not required to tell you why, as it will be classified.

If, however you are interested in joining MSF Kinloss, and wish to be shouted at, paid little, have premature arthritis, put your wife and family in a condemned hut miles from civilization and are prepared to work your ass off daily, risking your life, in all weathers and terrains, both day and night, whilst watching the Government erode your original benefits package, then please stay on the line.
Your call will shortly be connected to a bitter, passed-over shift mover, in an old recruitment office down by the Post Office.

Have a pleasant day and thank you again for contacting the British Military Help Line.

[Editor's Note: I do believe Shuggie is trying to tell us something here!]


From: Ian Berry
Subject: History Page
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:40:08 -0000


The actual date the 5th Anniversary took place was Friday 30th April 1971 commencing at 2pm! I have a copy of the original programme given to me by the late Mike Slade and the insert was inside.



[Editors Note: Many thanks - I updated the article with that info.]


Norrie Radcliffe promised us some non-incriminating photographs a while back from his days as MAMS Training Officer - life must be very slow on the island...


Well that's it for this week - please look around for information and photographs about Changi and Kai Tak. There really is not too much on the web about these places right now, and what there is addresses the civilian rather than the RAF side.

Have a nice weekend