22 February 2002


New members joining us this week are:

Paddy Power from Lyneham, UK

Bob Turner from Muscat, Oman

Lee Kincart from Basel, Switzerland

Patrick Meehan from Malaga, Spain

Welcome to the OBA!


From:       Murdo N.Macleod, Newport On Tay,
Date:        14 February 2002 21:21
Subject:    Re: Profile

Photo's will follow when I figure out how to work out how to get them on the net got some of Bahrain and various courses.

Some people might find it amusing to see us as we were in days of yore. Got plenty of my days in the RFA as well which may be of interest or not.


[Ed:  Thanks Murdo - those RFA pictures should be of great interest too.]


From:      Roger Whittington, Merseyside,
Date:       Friday, February 15, 2002 6:58 AM
Subject:   Re: Membership Applications

Hi Tony,

It's nice to be welcomed into the OBA and to catch up with people who I thought were either dead or in prison!  I think that you might have got hold of the wrong end of the stick though, the Bill Kearney whose name is in my e-mail address is not the one that used to be an air mover.  He is in fact one of my relations whom I share the house with and was never in the movements world.

Anyway, it's great reading the brief and I look forward to contacting some old friends.  Once again, thanks very much.


Roger Whittington

[Ed:  Thanks Roger - You are very welcome, but I did think that we had finally caught up with Bill!]


From:      David Gale, Chepstow,
Date:       15 February 2002 19:46
Subject:    Re: Old Boys Briefs 021502

Your current subject about Belslows reminds me of my Muharraq tour 1967-68. My first 6 months saw the demise of dirty 30's Bevs. I moved from there to Role and Loose for few months, while the FS was getting the message that, as an aircraft technician, this was not my career scenario.

I subsequently completed my time on 208 Hunters. One Sunday lie-in was severely disrupted by some some young erk on a stopover while on tourex from Salalah [Ed: Twas me!].  But young bro Tony, we had a good day - 'til I had guard duty!

While on R/L I saw the fleet of Hercs arrive, along with other types, to complete the Aden pullout. That was a sight and a half.

One night two Belfasts arrived  - one in full roller and stub deck, and the other in full pax fit. It can only happen to me, the powers that be required us to swap the aircraft roles about - which took the 4 of us all night.

We celebrated the completion of the task by sitting on trays and riding from the top of the closed ramp for the full length of the freight bay on the roller floor. We deserved that one! Functional testing of course.

I complete my relationship with these aircraft on my return tour at Brize. Working throught the components bays (oxygen, hydraulics and wheels and brakes). I recall the 10-ship flypast just before one Christmas, when we were aware that to get them all up required a great number of Greenline and Redline entries in the techlogs!



[Ed:  Thanks Brother!  FYI Dave was at one time an Airframe Fitter in the RAF, but has worked for many years at Airbus Industries in Filton as a Technical Author]


From:       Murdo N.Macleod, Newport On Tay
Date:        15 February 2002 20:43
Subject:    Re: Old Boys Briefs 021502

Hi Tony

Further to my update of profile, I wish to inform you that I've had to change my phone number, as I was being plagued by a tele sales company's computer, ringing almost non stop.

Haven't a clue how it got my number, new number 01382-541812, just in case anyone tries to get in touch.

I've just been checking the Rogues Gallery, and right in the middle of it, Baba Lamb, as large as life.  Had many a chuckle over him, bloody old woman.

I also clocked Dave Wilkins who was Sgt on Papa team


Murdo Macleod

[Ed:  Thanks Murdo - I've changed your info.]


From:       Keith Parker, Thumrait,
Date:        16 February 2002 00:42
Subject:     Re: Old Boys Briefs 021502


Must be the pressure of work, but it was me who sent the e-mail about XV216 not Ian Bell, I know we work for the same company but I'm better looking


Keith Parker

[Ed:  In my own defense, the e-mail was unsigned and originated from the same address as used by Ian Bell - but thanks for the info about being better looking - that's not what Ian said!!]


From:      Mike Bush, Morpeth,
Date:       16 February 2002 16:54
Subject:    (No subject)

Hello Tony

Just to let you know that  Ken Davie has given an incorrect name for one of the movers shown in the updated image us Sharjah 1966 It is in fact Flt.Sgt Jim Darlington,  not Gallagher as Ken has advised you



[Ed: Thanks Mike - has been changed]


From:       John Bell, Cairns,
Date:        15 February 2002 20:16
Subject:    Re: Old Boys Briefs 021502


Further to Chas Cormack's mail on Dave Hammond and Jock Hunt.

We were on the same team for a year or so and I remember them well. All Chas says is true to the best of my recollection. Jock Hunt left the RAF at Abingdon. I cannot remember how he escaped the mob because manning was critical and you could not quit the RAF or buy yourself out without a long (3Year?) wait. A popular scam was "Depression"! Shortly after Jock left as an LAC he joined Caledonian Airways. Soon after that a Caledonian flight came to Abingdon and Jock was one of the crew. He had 2 and a half rings on his shoulder and used the Officer's Mess, much to the disgust of the team leaders!

Dave had delusions of granduer and on task would adopt the role of a pilot on BWIA (British West Indian Airways) when we went to a bar or club. On the Zambian Oil Lift he assumed the rank of Flt Lt and became a Javelin Pilot so that the local expats would let him use their Cricket Club. The 60 Sqn aircew had convinced the locals that only Officers should be allowed in!. I would not be surprised to hear he has done really well. They were two very colourful characters and put about the story that they had no wish to become SACs and did not bother with the exam. Maybe it was true? Not really.


[Ed:  Thanks John - amazing stuff!]


From:        Mike Bush, Morpeth,
Date:          17 February 2002 03:09
Subject:      RAF Sharjah  1966

Hello Tony

Another name for you

The chap sitting second from the right on the arm of the chair is Jack Marshall   ex  49th  (I could not remember his name- it was Bob Todd ex 49th Supplier who reminded me)

Mike Bush

[Ed:  Thanks Mike - have added the name]


From:         Dibs Loveridge, Brough,
Date:          17 February 2002 18:46
Subject:      Ibdib had a virus

Tony, if I may use the site to apologise to anyone who got a computer virus sent (unintentionally) by me. The little bugger slipped through my defences.

Anyway, going to this site and following instructions seems to cure it. 99069.htm

While I'm on, ages ago, I promised to look through my photos. Sadly, there is little of any use. The only time I took any 'action' photos, was on a task to weigh an old Centurion tank at Warminster. The prints I later gave to MAMS, who used some in a Team Brief ages ago.

Very interesting to read Ian Berry's comments re morale, from a couple of weeks ago. Maybe I got out at the right time.  Someone told me the problem with Lyneham was the impractiicallity of extending the runways ie, a big drop at one end, and a village (New Zealand?) at the other. Don't know if there is any truth in it, but it sounds feasable. Anyway, Per Ardua Ad Astra (After work, Down the Bowl).

Rgds Dibs.

[Ed:  Thammy Thafety Thex Thays "Alwathe wear a wubber!"]


From:        Ken Davie, Minneapolis WI,
Date:         17 February 2002 12:17
Subject:     My hero!

Chas Cormack, my hero!

It warmed the cockles of my heart to picture Hudson swinging upside down over the balcony, as detailed in Chas's recent letter to the OBA.  Isn't it terrible that a bloody inspection prevented Chas from dropping the little swine on his head?  It would have done him a world of good. I sincerely hope that someone has carried on the good work that Chas started. As for throwing Hudson's sorry ass through the trellis, wonderful! I only wish I could have been there to help. Perhaps my life would be different if I could only have got one boot in. Just a swift kick to the groin, that's all. I deeply regret having missed the opportunity, but I'm glad at least that someone managed it!

Still trying to get Rob Davies from Meggitt Defence on the OBA. A lost cause for the time being, I'm afraid. His business has increased substantially since 9/11 and the last time I e-talked to his assistant, Teresa, she said that 6 more contracts had come up in the few months after the attack. We'll get him when he retires.

Also, great to see Bob Turner on the site at last!


p.s. Thought you might enjoy the following tidbits that were actually broadcast during sports events:

"And this is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw her snatch this morning  and it was amazing!"
(Pat Glenn - weightlifting commentator)

"Andrew Mehrtens loves it when Darryl Gibson comes inside of him."
(New Zealand rugby commentator)

"This is really a lovely horse. I once rode her mother."
(Ted Walsh - horse racing commentator)

"I've never had major knee surgery on any other part of my body."
(Winston Bennett)

"The lead car is absolutely unique, except for the one behind it which is identical."
(Murray Walker - F1 racing commentator)

"I owe a lot to my parents, especially my father and mother."
(Greg Norman)

"Sure, there have been deaths in boxing but none of them serious."
(Alan Minter)

"If history repeats itself, I should think we can expect the same thing again."
(Terry Venables)

"I would not say that David Ginola is the best left winger in the  Premiership, but there are none better."
(Ron Atkinson)

"Ah, isn't that nice. The wife of the Cambridge president is kissing the cox of the Oxford crew."
(Harry Carpenter at the Oxford-Cambridge boat race 1977)

"Morcelli has four fastest 1,500 m times ever. And all those times over 1,500 m."
(David Coleman)

"Julian Dicks is everywhere. It's like they've got eleven Dicks on the field."
(Metro Radio)

"Strangely, in slow motion replay, the ball seems to hang in the air for even longer."
(David Acfield)

"What will you do when you leave football, Jack. Will you stay in football?"
(Stuart Hall - Radio 5 live)

”And there goes Juantorena down the back straight, opening his legs and showing his class."
(David Coleman at the Montreal Olympics)

"One of the reasons Arnie (Arnold Palmer) is playing so well is that, before each tee shot, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them ...... Oh my God! What have I just said?!!!"
(US PGA Commentator)

[Ed:  Many thanks for that Ken]


From:      Graham Bayne, Boston,
Date:        19 February 2002 15:26
Subject:    Couple of Pics

Hi Tony

As an ex-mover, sorry not MAMS, I have been on the group for some time and enjoy it immensely and thought it might be interesting to send in a couple of snaps.

Some of the names that pop up are known to me.I worked with Vic Hopper on Gan. Doug Betambeau was an Apprentice with me as was Clive Bishop. Ken Morris was a room mate on Gan,  and Gordon Gourdie was " marooned " on POL at Scampton during the late 60's when I arrived fresh from Hereford.

I can still remember some very fluid nights in the pigs bar with Gordon along with Chas Hill, John Hindle, Frank Walsh and Jamie Jameson. Anyway enough of that stroll down memory lane, the pics enclosed are of my Movements course sometime in the early 70's no names attached except yours truly who is on the extreme right back row.  Perhaps some of the OB's can fill in some more.Photo two is of Sea (yes sea) and air movs Gan Nov 72 ,I know the names of everyone here but again lets see what the OB's turn up.  Missing from the photo, though not from my memory is the redoubtable Reg Carey, who arrived some time later.  Anyway hope they are of interest and keep up the good work.


Graham Bayne

[Ed:  Thanks Graham.  I will get the pictures onto the site a.s.a.p. along with all of the other material that has been sent in.  I am having a slight computer problem at the moment which should be fixed very soon.]


From:        John Belcher, Chippenham,
Date:         20 February 2002 16:34
Subject:     MAMS Association Updates


Can you publicise the following on the OBA:

UKMAMS Association Survey
The survey deadline date has been extended due to popular demand so make sure you votes count by completing the survey before 10 March at or

Latest News from the UKMAMS Association
The date for the UKMAMS Families Day has had to be changed due to Operational reasons. The date of the Families Day is now due to be held on the 31 August 2002. The AGM of the UKMAMS Association will be held on the same day at Lyneham. More details will be given in due course.

The next 'Meet and Greet' for all Association members will at the RAFA club in Swindon on Friday 26 April from 7.30



[Ed:  Done!]


From:          Bob Dixon, Dauntsey,
Date:          Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:36:11 EST
Subject:      Re: MAMS Association up dates


Could you add to the Meet and Greet the vital information that TWOFERS will be available that evening - should hopefully encourage a few more to turn out!


Bob Dixon

[Ed: and done!]


From:      Gordon Curran,
Date:       21 February 2002 15:33


I was posted to Khormaksar Nov. 1966 to join Middle East Command Mobile Air Movements.  Would be interested to know if you have any old boys on your books from 1966 through 1968.  I was involved with the whole withdrawal, starting up-country with Dhala and ending with Riyan.  Good times.

For your information, I was ex 49th Hereford.

Best regards

Gordon Curran

[Ed:  Thanks Gordon - we have oodles of Old Boys from that era.  Looking forward to receiving your application]


Well, that's it for this week

Have a great weekend

Best regards