27 February 2009


New members joining us recently are:

Nicole Winshill, Brize Norton, UK

Dave Bickford, Trenton, ON, Canada
"I'm currently with 436 Sqn"

Nathan Harkess, Blenheim, New Zealand

Welcome to the OBA!


From: Don Lloyd, Calgary, AB
Sent: 12 February 2009 02:44
Subject: Canadian Air Force Tribute


That subject video was excellent.

Thanks much.

Don Lloyd

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From: Malcolm Porter, London
Sent: 12 February 2009 03:00
Subject: Re: UKMAMS OBA OBB #021209

The CL44 Association has been successful in its bid to purchase the one and only CL44-O Conroy Guppy (c/n16). Many a Mover has had 'close encounters' with this aircraft in the past. It was often chartered by the MoD to haul outsize loads whilst it was in the service of Transmeridian Air Cargo and Heavylift.

The future for this truly one-off cargo aircraft lies with the National Aviation Museum in Iceland where the flight deck section will be preserved. Iceland was home to a fleet of CL44's (J & D models) during the days of LOFTLEIDIR whilst the CL44 Association will also transfer one Tyne engine and a prop blade assembly to the museum.

The next CL44 Association re union will take place on Saturday 20th May 2010 at the RAF Club 126 Piccadilly.

Guest speakers (provisional): Flight Engineer Jeff Seideman (Flying Tiger Line)
Captain Roy Day (BOAC-Capt on N228SW whilst in BOAC service)
Captain Marvin Beier (Wrangler L1049 and CL44 Captain and Assn President)
Around another 100 speakers-all at the Bar though probably!

For an Application Form to join (and get discount on the CL44 book) email

Already, former 'Mover' Brian Kent has his name down for a place at the re union - anyone else there like to join him? If so, just drop me an email.


Malcolm Porter
CL44 Association


From: Charles Collier, Devizes
Sent: 12 February 2009 04:23
Subject: Mystery RAF Photo 12 Feb

Hello Tony,

Yes, the RAF mystery photo depicts the then Plt Off Frank Holmes and Sgt Ivan Gervais on the left but I'm not sure of those on the right of the 'copter.

It's not surprising that I recognised Frank Holmes on your RAF teaser last edition.

As you see Frank was my best man at yours truly's wedding on 21 February 1971!

And some time later he asked me to be his best man as well.

All the best


You're correct about Frank Holmes, but that's Bernie Bernard behind Frank and then on the right are Phil King and Don Stewart. Sorry no prize this time!

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From: Peter Clayton, Wroughton
Sent: 12 February 2009 05:36
Subject: RNZAF Mystery Photo 021209


Thanks for another great issue.

Not sure who the young lady is at the controls but I guess she must be the only female member of the crew as only one of the handbag hooks (engine fire buttons!) are occupied.  Good grief!

No responses to the mystery photo I sent in yet, surely someone must recognize the building. (RAF Mystery photo 122408)

I echo the good wishes to all our friends in Australia, keep safe.  I have e-mailed Steve Broadhurst in Melbourne to send my best wishes, no response as yet.  Hope all is well Steve and family.

Cheers for now.


The RNZAF Mystery Photo was actually a tongue-in-cheek thing - I do believe the young lady in the cockpit box office is in the USAF


From: Dave Bickford, Trenton, ON
Sent: 12 February 2009 20:19
Subject: CAF Mystery Photo 013009

CAF Mystery Photo 013009...the Corporal is Derek Cox.

Dave B.

Thanks Dave and welcome to the OBA!

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From: Dennis Martin, Woking
Sent: 13 February 2009 11:03
Subject: Boys Toys

Hi Tony,

Thought you might like to see this video - absolutely brilliant!


Dennis Martin

Royal Air Force C-17 Scale Model



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Clearance of Long Term Car Park at RAF Brize Norton

1. Due to the ongoing infrastructure works associated with the redevelopment of RAF Brize Norton, there is a requirement to clear the current Long Term Car Park (LTCP) at the base.

2. The area covered by the LTCP is to become a secure off base reception area for the 'airport' function of the Station, leaving the main gate reception area for 'work' and 'freight'. The new Air Port of Embarkation (APOE) reception area will have vastly improved facilities that will provide a streamlined route for travellers, enhance security and the overall passenger/well-wisher experience.

3. A list of all the cars currently occupying spaces in the LTCP has been produced by the Station Services Squadron at RAF Brize Norton. Their
aim is to contact everyone on the list and ascertain individual plans for vehicle collection and removal. Please note that RAF Brize Norton have
offered assurances that they do not intend to make arrangements for any vehicles to be towed away unless they are obviously scrap.

4. Should you have concerns that you may be affected by the requirement to clear the RAF Brize Norton LTCP, please contact Hillside Camp (77101) who will cross check vehicle details against those supplied by RAF Brize Norton.

5. Ultimately, it is RAF Brize Norton’s intention to clear a different parking area and create a new LTCP facility that can be formally managed through a system of pre-booked and specifically designated slots.

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From: Don Lloyd, Calgary, AB
Sent: 19 February 2009 00:02
Subject: Re: UKMAMS OBA OBB #021209

Good Evening Tony

Is CAF mystery photo #021209 the shoulder flash for the British Commonwealth Air Training Program (BCATP) USA Contingent 1942 to 1945 ?

Cheers ...


Valiant effort Don, but no prize. Before the United States had formally entered the Second World War, over 8,000 U.S. citizens saw fit to help in the fight and traveled to Canada to enlist in the Allied war effort. Those who joined the RCAF wore these shoulder patches.

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From: Victor Smith, Hot 'n' Sandy
Sent: 19 February 2009 05:58
Subject: Butch Foley


Don't know what happened to Butch Foley but he was the Boss of our Air Movements world when I was working at Campbell Park in Canberra. Did meet him on several occasions there and at Richmond etc and, I believe, everyone held him in high esteem.

I've got about 3 weeks left in my little sand pit and then about a month left after that on my current Full Time contract. May just have to join the Grey Nomads and do some wandering. Technically, I guess, I am already doing that but getting paid for it.



Stay in touch Vic and let us know when you're settled back in Oz


Plane faults ground hundreds of troops

Hundreds of troops heading to and from Afghanistan have been left stranded following "technical malfunctions" on two Oxfordshire-based RAF planes.

Soldiers and Marines heading out to Helmand Province were forced to return to the UK twice, only a couple of hours into their flight from RAF Brize Norton, following problems. And hundreds more troops hoping to return home from serving in Afghanistan were delayed because of a fault on their aircraft at Kandahar. Equipment needed to help repair their plane was due to be taken to Afghanistan by the aircraft delayed at Brize Norton.

Investigations into both Tristar planes have begun and up to 1,000 troops could be affected. Speaking about the aircraft due to arrive in Kandahar, Flight Lieutenant Mark Concarr, Duty Air Movements Officer at Brize Norton, said: "The aircraft suffered a technical malfunction that is under investigation.

"An aircraft going out and returning on this schedule is very unusual.

"We do have problems but generally speaking the air bridge is a success."

He said the Tristar grounded at Kandahar was also being investigated for a fault but was available for "tasking".

Flt Lt Concarr said: "It is available for tasking but has a technical malfunction but for safety reasons we did not want to put troops on it while the problem is being investigated."

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From: Ian Stacey, Chicago, IL
Sent: 19 February 2009 09:24
To: Len Bowen, Chisholm, ACT, Australia
Subject: From Ian Stacey in Chicago

Hi Len,

Are you the same Len Bowen who used to be a thin young Pilot Officer (I think at Abingdon??) and who, when we were out drinking one evening, drove his ancient Jaguar (by accident?) down over the rock garden outside the front of the pub??




Australian DHC-4s Face Early Retirement

Australia will put its DHC-4 Caribou airlifters to rest by year-end. Defense minister Joel Fitzgibbon said Feb. 19 that retirement of the remaining 13 Caribou will be moved forward to December, a plight he blamed on the conservative, predecessor government.

"The government has been left with little choice but to retire the Caribou and has reluctantly agreed to do so despite the fact that poor planning by the former government has denied us the opportunity to produce a replacement aircraft before 2013," Fitzgibbon asserted. "The Caribou fleet is suffering badly from a range of ageing aircraft issues, and contains asbestos parts which I am determined to weed out of the Defense Force," Fitzgibbon says. The military can only get four or five aircraft ready for service as the fleet suffers corrosion, fatigue and obsolescence issues.

RAAF officers have long worried they will not find a suitable replacement for the Caribou, particularly its ability to operate on rough runways. Indeed, the decision to take the airlifter out of service after 45 years comes as the Royal Australian Air Force will actually face an important capability gap, something Fitzgibbon concedes is a misstep.

The eventual replacement will be bought through Project Air 8000 Phase 2, with the goal of fielding around 14 tactical transports. As part of a major "white paper" review of Australian defense acquisitions, studies underway whether the schedule can be accelerated. As a gap-filler, No. 38 squadron will operate up to eight Hawker Pacific King Air light transport aircraft. Three of those aircraft now in service with the army will shift to the air force.

The RAAF has been operating the Caribou since April 1964, the Australian defense ministry says. The aircraft was home based in Townsville and saw service in Vietnam, Kashmir, Cambodia, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands and East Timor.

"Our nation is extremely proud of the magnificent service that the Caribou has provided to the Royal Australian Air Force over the past five decades," the minister said. "While there may be some who are saddened to hear of the Caribou's impending retirement, even the most vocal supporters of the Caribou will agree this decision is long overdue."

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From: Peter Chappell, Wellingborough
Sent: 23 February 2009 02:41
Subject: Seeb

Hi Tony,

Any past or present Movers out in Muscat? I will be in Seeb from 20th April through to 15th May. If anyone fancies a beer and a chat, please email me.

Peter Chappell

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India Team, Got-El-Afrag, Libya, 1968. Included in the picture are Dave Allen, Dave Gillinder, Tommy Benson and Ken Davie. Following is from the 540 about the UKMAMS involvement in Exercise Crayon in Libya, North Africa:

Squadron Leader Bill Jacobs, OC UKMAMS, an HQ element and 4 Teams deployed to Malta, in addition to two teams that were deployed to El Adem, to provide Air Movements facilities for the annual Joint Exercise Crayon (previously named Parula).

On 25th April 1968 India Team and the NEAF Team redeployed to the exercise forward airstrip at Got-El-Afrag to receive Airhead Agencies of 38 Group and the main body of 16 Parachute Brigade, both from the UK via Malta. OC UKMAMS with the remainder of the detachment redeployed from Malta to El Adem on 28th April following completion of transplanement activity.

The recovery of exercise elements by air from Got-El-Afrag to El Adem took place between 3rd and 10th May whilst the tactical phases were still in progress, which provided a severe test of the capability of the 5 teams in El Adem.

The two teams at Got-El-Afrag were required to work at high pressure in difficult conditions. The UKMAMS Teams were rotated from El Adem to gain experience in this type of environment.

The following are Ken's own words: "I have some photographs at home of "I" team at the desert in Got El Afraq, where the 11 guys were killed in a plane crash (Argosy) as we left. The pilot buzzed the camp, his wing clipped a makeshift shower (50 gallon drum) at the Afraq Hilton (a tent!), and they plowed into the desert. I was at El Adem when they brought the bodies in. That stays with you for a while."

We were able to obtain a crash report from Aviation Safety. The details are very sketchy because of the military need for confidentiality:

Date: 07.05.1968
Type: Armstrong Whitworth AW-650 Argosy C Mk.1
Operator: Royal Air Force - RAF 267 Squadron
Registration: XR133
C/n: 6788
Year built: 1963
Location: Got-El-Afraq (Libya)
Nature: Military
Remarks: Hit obstruction while flying low and crashed.


From: Fiona Buckthorpe
To: Ken Davie, Choctaw, MS, USA
Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:13 PM
Subject: Got El Afraq 1968

Dear Ken

I hope you do not mind me contacting you, but I was looking at the photo's from the 1960's on the UKMAMS OBA website and noted that you say you have some photographs at home of "I" team. My father was killed in the plane crash at Got El Afraq in 1968 and I unfortunately know very little about him as I was only 3 at the time of the accident. I am not sure if he was in "I" team but was on Exercise 'Crayon'.

He was the pilot of the plane, Richard John Proctor, I have various versions of how the accident occurred ranging from 'he buzzed the tower' to 'he requested permission to carry out an undercarriage check over the runway'. However or why the accident occurred is probably best left to lie, but it still leaves me knowing very little about him.

The reason for contacting you is to see if you knew him, or if you have any photo's with him in.

I am very much looking forward to hearing from you and hope you may be able to help me find out a little bit more about him.

Best regards and thank you in advance for your help.

Fiona Buckthorpe

Anyone having information for Fiona: left click on the Union Flag next to her name in the header and that will open an e-mail compose screen

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From: Ken Davie, Choctaw, MS
Sent: 24 February 2009 18:01
Subject: Got El Afraq 1968

Hi Tony,

I responded to Fiona. I didn't know her Dad real well although we all knew the pilots. Perhaps someone else was closer to him. It was a terrible day.

Off to Singapore at the beginning of next month for a job in a new casino being built there. Wish me luck!!!

All the very best!


Let's hope Fiona gets some answers, in the meantime good luck in Singapore Ken - just stay away from Bugis Street!


Coast to Coast relay by Vintage Aircraft celebrates 100 years of Powered Flight in Canada

This week marks the 100th Anniversary of the first powered, heavier-than-air, controlled flight in Canada by J.A.D. McCurdy in the Silver Dart on the frozen surface of the Bras d'Or Lakes near Baddeck, Nova Scotia.

Under the leadership of the Canadian Aeronautical Preservation Association (CAPA), aviation museums and aviation heritage sites across Canada will celebrate that milestone with a unique and historically oriented event. The "Back to Baddeck" vintage aircraft relay flight project, which is CAPA's celebration of 100 years of Canadian aviation achievements, recognizes Canada's aviation roots in Baddeck, Nova Scotia, celebrates the wide variety of aircraft involved and aviation's national impact.

This relay flight will be done in several legs with a variety of vintage aircraft owned and restored by member Museums. The northern portion of the relay will start in Baddeck, Nova Scotia on 23 February, 2009 going west across the Canadian north to end up in Comox, BC by May. The southern portion will be done west to east from Comox, BC starting on 23 May and ending at the Nova Scotia International Air Show in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia 12 and 13 September.

This cross Canada flight will stop at all of the member museums, each provincial capital as well as in Ottawa. On board the aircraft will be the "baton" which will contain special mint coins issued by the Royal Canadian Mint and first day cover stamps issued by Canada Post and cancelled in Baddeck on the Anniversary date affixed to a specifically designed envelope with a message to the receiver of these envelopes from the members of CAPA. These will be presented to each member museum, the provincial Premiers and the Governor General of Canada.

Canada has been more reliant on aviation for its development than any other country in the world. Aviation opened up Canada and remains a lifeline to many remote and northern areas.

The significance of aviation today and what it has done for Canada can be compared to what the Canadian Pacific Railway did for Canada in the years after Confederation. CAPA was formed to promote the preservation of aircraft, Canadian aviation history, and the retention in Canada of aircraft, airframes, associated artifacts and related materials significant to Canadian aviation.

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The first wing section for the new fleet of Airbus A330-200 tankers that will replace the RAF's TriStar and VC-10 aircraft was wheeled out of its North Wales hangar yesterday.

15:21 GMT, February 26, 2009 The huge wing section was loaded onto a giant Beluga aircraft at Airbus UK's Broughton plant before flying to France, where the new tanker aircraft for the RAF are being assembled, for the wing to be attached to its fuselage.

Fourteen A330-200-based tanker aircraft were ordered last year under a £13 billion PFI (Private Finance Initiative) deal with AirTanker Ltd. The Future Strategic Tanker Aircraft (FSTA) will fly in RAF 'colours' and undertake RAF air-to-air and passenger air transport tasks. The contract allows AirTanker to operate the aircraft on commercial tasks when not required for military duties.

Minister for Defence Equipment and Support Quentin Davies said:

"The A330s will provide a state-of-the-art, air-to-air tanker and passenger aircraft supporting air operations around the world and the delivery of British forces to operational theatres.

Artist's impression of Future Strategic Tanker Aircraft

"Today's wing ceremony marks a significant stage in the life of the Future Strategic Air Tanker and is good news for the RAF and good news for industry and UK jobs.

"They will provide an important contribution to operations, enabling the RAF to continue its essential air-to-air refuelling tasks, as well as providing more reliable and economical transport for our personnel."

Air-to-air refuelling is a key military capability that provides force multiplication and operational range enhancement for front line aircraft across a range of defence roles and military tasks. The FSTA PFI will break new ground in that the contract requires industry to own and supply not just the aircraft but maintenance and other services.

The current fleet will need replacement in the coming decade and under the arrangement the RAF will have use of the new aircraft when they need them, but the through-life risks of ownership will lie with industry and therefore offers greatest value for money for the taxpayer without prejudicing operational capability.

Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy, said:

"Air-to-air refuelling and strategic airlift are fundamental to the UK's expeditionary capability and the Future Tanker is a crucial element of that capability. These aircraft will provide the RAF with the modern air-to-air refuelling and passenger air transport capability that is so necessary in this era of expeditionary operations."

While the basic aircraft will be assembled in Toulouse, there will be significant input into manufacture in the UK with the programme creating up to 600 jobs in the UK, as well as directly sustaining up to 3,000 and indirectly a further 4,500. Rolls-Royce at Derby is assembling the Trent 700 engines with technical support from its Filton plant; Airbus UK at Broughton and GKN Filton are involved in wing production; Cobham at Wimborne and Bournemouth is installing refuelling equipment and carrying out related conversion work; and Thales UK at Crawley, Raynes Park and Wells supplies simulators, defensive aids, avionics and mission-planning systems.

In its air-to-air refuelling role the new tankers will have the ability to offload 60 tonnes of fuel 1,000 miles (1,609km) from base, and remain on station for two hours. The cabin will be able to transport up to 290 personnel and the cargo area can hold 44 tonnes of payload. The aircraft represents a significant advance in capability over its predecessors, with improved reliability, performance and economy.

RAF crews will operate the aircraft on military duties, together with some sponsored reservists employed by the contractor. The 27-year contract covers all aspects of the operation, including the provision of new infrastructure currently being constructed at RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire, the fleet's main operating base

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That's it for this issue

Have a great weekend!