April 6, 2001


I did promise myself when I started the site that I wouldn't put any advertising in, as I believe it sometimes has a very negative impact on the integrity of a website. There are, however, a couple of very enterprising ex British Army soldiers who operate a business out of the UK supplying non-perishable foodstuffs to ex patriots all over the world. I think that this is an extremely well organized venture, and after much consideration I have begun negotiations with this business for us to carry their advertisement in the Links pages only of the site.

There will be a small revenue generated for the OBA as a result of the referrals, which will help to offset the overheads. I expect the ad will be in sometime next week.

New members this week are:

Kevin Stanger from Lincoln

Ian Hambleton from Lyneham

Jack Riley from Hervey Bay, Qld., Australia

Welcome to the OBA!

Karl Hibbert retired from the RAF in February of this year and departed the UK for a life of adventure in the Philippines. I just received some photographs from him reflecting the progress he is making in building his own house. I have created a profile page for him which you can get to via the Members List (just click on the asterisk next to his name).


From: Steve Maunder
Subject: Update
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:49:17 +0100

Hi Tony,

Glad to see the site and the OBA are going from strength to strength. I can remember when I first found the site and my name was the first with the Union Jack against it!

I finally got around to sorting out some photos from the "little episode in the South Atlantic" back in '82 apologies for the quality of some of them but my pay at the time couldn't support an expensive camera.

I will send them in the next Email, that way you will know why it is taking so long to download! Hope they are of some use to you.

By the way, I have finally finished my apprenticeship in the RAF VR(T) and have made it from L.A.C. to Flying Officer. (Not bad after 23 Years is it???)

All the best for the future.

Steve Maunder
Kilo Team 80-84

[Editor's Note: Many thanks for the pictures Steve - they'll be up this weekend. Congrats on the promotion!]


From: Gus Hatter
Subject: Re: Invitation
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:29:40 -0500

Dear Tony,

Thanks for the invite to join the Old Boys Association, which I would like to do; unfortunately, after several attempts, I still have not been able to dispatch the application form, due to processing errors. I keep getting the advice that "... the host could not be found..."

Can you advise?

Best regards,

[Editor's Note: I believe Gus was possibly working behind a "firewall" - maybe he was using a computer at a place of business, in which case he definitely would have a problem - it really all depends on the level of security built into the firewall - I think! I am looking forward to hearing back from him]


From: Mark McGuinness
Subject: Masirah Flight Watch Centre
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:21:02 +0100


I'm an ex SAC (AATC) MB (Spider) McGuinness

I was stationed at Masirah 73/74 as an Air Trafficer at the Flight Watch Centre embedded within the ComCen, I loved the place, and still do. I am a creative writer nowadays, I would be pleased to submit some stories of my time there, and would be interested in any photo's of the place you may have. Especialy the Crazy Horse Saloon, or the Sailing Club....

Look forward to hearing from you.

[Editor's Note: While the offer of an article was greatly appreciated, I did respectfully decline. I am trying to keep the site, as far as possible, Air Movements related. I did provide Spider with the URL for the Masirah site hosted by Lin and Gordon Taylor who spent many memorable years on the island and have some wonderful images


From: Steve Williams
Subject: Change of email address
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:28:41 +0100

Hello Tony

Please could you note the change of email address.

Best regards

Steve Williams

[Editor's Note: The changes have been made - thanks]


From: Ronald Jack Riley
Subject: Re: Old Boys Briefs 033001
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:29:40 +1000

Dear Tony

I greatly enjoyed receiving your letter and the newsletter. Sadly, when I went online to enjoy the web site I got the message "Internet Explorer is unable to access the website" Mobile movers are persistent people hence this letter. I would, of course, like to join you.

A brief note of explanation. My Masterlink server was taken over by an outfit called Australis which has caused problems ...which you clearly overcame. My phone number in Australia is (07) 41 251989 and my address 28, Merlin Drive, Urangan, Hervey Bay, Queensland,4655. Hervey Bay is about five hours by road or 35 minutes by air north of Brisbane. With a population of about
45,000 and 17 kilometres of unspoiled beaches we find it a paradise. Virtually Winter free (we have no heating in the house) we enjoy about 30 degrees in the height of Summer yet are cooled by sea breezes. Cost of living by UK standards is minimal clothes (well, hardly any!) ....fresh fruit and vegetables as a staple diet ...too hot for Yorkshire pud and the like ...and so on.

I am safely retired (for the fourth time) and enjoy a pleasant lifestyle of reading, writing, a little fishing, the odd beer and no hassles....... all on a pension!

I spent much of my 21 year service in the Air Movements field and followed the "normal career pattern" of working my way up from AC2 to Squadron Leader. The elements which may be of interest to you are: Air Movements Officer, Changi 1949-51 Opened Air Movements Butterworth 1950 Movements Adviser to the Burma Air Force 1951-52 Chief Equipment Instructor specialising in Movements, RAF College, Cranwell 1959-60 Movement Plans HQMEC, with special responsibility for Theatre MAMS 1963-65

All of which looks a bit formal but I suppose my claims to fame (if any) could be said to be flying in with MAMS (Don Cleland) to Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia on deployment of the Strategic Reserve through Nairobi and signing for 780 breakfasts at the Airport Restaurant (and living in fear of retribution thereafter!) and flying in on a twin rotor Belvedere to the MAMS in the Radfan (also Don Cleland) with a kerosene fridge underslung and the beer on board!

But enough! If you can suggest why the website won't let me play I'd be happy to hear it.

Greetings to all


PS If you'd be good enough to let Brian Lloyd know my new email address I'd be grateful....mailman won't let me access him either! J

[Editor's Note: I spent quite a lot of time tracking Jack down after I learned of his being in Australia from Brian Lloyd of the RAF Changi Association I eventually was able to contact a chap by the name of Cameron Kneebone (shades of Crocodile Dundee!) who was very helpful in finding Jack.]


From: Ronald Jack Riley
Subject: Profile
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:16:00 +1000

Dear Tony

WOW!!!! I have just spent a very happy time wandering around your creation and to say that I'm impressed is a masterpiece of understatement.

You mention a "Profile". My wife says that I don't write letters I write books so be warned. You mention "old 'uns" don't know the half of it! The young feller at this end makes 74 this month and is still remarkably fit and active which is bad news for the Paymaster General who contributes to my monthly income and has done since 1965!

And finally ....there is an RAAF Association here. When I catch up with them on ANZAC Day (April 25) I'll pass on details of the website lest there be Movers among their number.

Now I'm off to contact George Redman who seems to live in my old stamping ground (Leigh-on-Sea).



[Editor's note: You will be able to find Jack's profile via the Members List on the site]


From: Chris Simpson
Subject: Canadain ex-B/Es Reunion
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:23:09 -0600

Hi Tony

Chris Simpson here, ex BE 26th entry, we spoke on the phone Sunday re get together here in Calgary in October.

Just had a gander through your site, very good. Will be recommending it to some buddies.


[Editors Note: This is mainly for ex Boy Entrants who are living in Canada and the USA. There's going to be a reunion in Calgary in the Fall. If you are interested in attending please contact Chris who will be happy to send you all the details.]


From: John Belcher
Subject: TriStar Engine Move
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:04:47 +0100


Found this photo in a booklet at the Movements School. The team is loading an RB211 Tristar engine. I think it is actually a JATE task. On the left is Pig Clarke. Maybe if you contact him he will be able to supply more details.

Incidentally (and it didn't come from me!!!) there is a very strong rumour that the RAF Unit at Goose Bay will be closed as soon as the Germans and other nations are pulling out and the RAF cannot afford to pay for the unit on their own!


[Editor's Note: Many thanks John - I did indeed forward the picture to Pig Clarke and his response is below. I promise not to tell anyone about Goose Bay!]


From: Chris Clarke
Subject: Re: TriStar Engine Move
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:45:15 -0400

Wow....blast from the past there!

Well, this is a JATE Airportability trial in action at Brize Norton in, I think 1987 - must be. That's me on the left, Sgt Mick Mayberry on the ramp and SAC Taff Brown on the Condec. This was a definite 'pink' tie down scheme. We had to to tilt the Herk, as in nose wheel off the ground, to get it into the aircraft. There was literally 2-3cms clearance from the top of the cowling to the centre lights inside. We eventually used Tirfor winches (bless them!) to get the engine in as the Bev winch was too quick for the clearances we were dealing with. But we got it in, intact! I don't recall any real C130 moves with the RB211, I think that MOD just chartered some
dodgy Russian aircraft to move them after that! Be a nice load for the C17 though, easy peesy in that!

Where did you get the piccy from? And how's life in London and doesn't this winter suck!

By the way, that's a great article on the C17. I did an image search on the RAF web site looking for MAMS piccies, not a one! It's one thing that never changes eh? It's like the RAF is ashamed of naming Movers or UKMAMS in any official capacity!

Keep up the good work with the site.

See ya!

Pig Clarke, agent of Regina in Right of Canada
Burlington UKMAMS Det, Ontario
The Dominion of Canada

[For those of you who don't know - Pig Clarke is now a Police Officer here in Canada. Be warned - he has a gun! The picture will be up on the site this weekend]


Well that's it for this week. As a result of the ad I placed in the RAF News I am in contact with a chap in the UK who has some wonderful historical pictures of Kai Tak, and who promises to get them to me. Please don't let that stop you from looking in the shoeboxes under your beds for some more!

Have a nice weekend,