Gatineau/Ottawa
11 April 2008

 

From: Jerry Allen, Cheltenham
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 04:55
Subject: RE: UKMAMS OBA OBB #032808

Hi Tony

Great newsletter as always – thank you!

I really will dust off the photo archives and crank up the scanner sometime soon and send you some material. Meanwhile, I saw two references in your letters to two old friends, Pete King and Kev Timms. I took over at Dulles from Pete in the early 80s and worked in MAMS Training with Kev for 3 years – is there any chance that you have their contact e-mails or if you could send them mine and ask them to drop me a note?

Best to you

Jerry

Done & done

 

From: David Stevens, Bangor
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 06:36
Subject: RE: UKMAMS OBA OBB #032808

You are right Tony - the new web site is a 'cracker'. You have every right to be proud. Things just get better!

Looking forward to meeting you in June.

Best regards

David

In 19th-century Britain, you could be hanged for associating with Gypsies or stealing bread

From: Terry Roberts, Swindon
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 06:37
Subject: WO Paddy Vance

I have made a big error here everybody; Paddy and Doreen Vance are both very much alive and living in Stafford.

I have had an email from Graham F (Geordie son-in-law) stating he is still alive and a pain the rear.

I am sorry for my error and very embarrassed, hope I have not offended anyone. On the plus side I do have fond memories of Paddy and am glad I was wrong.

Best regards

Terry Roberts

 

From: David Powell, Princes Risborough
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 07:43
To: Editor Team Brief
Subject: Tarpaulins to Glasgow

Dear Mick

Thanks for the latest team brief in which Ian Berry’s 'From the 540' included the airlift of tarpaulins to Glasgow.

This was in response to the famous ‘Glasgow Storm’ in the early hours of 15th January 1968 when gusts of over 90 mph were recorded at Glasgow airport. Some 340,000 buildings were damaged. However, my records show this as a Hercules job rather than F 540’s Argosies.

Can’t remember too much, but based on my battered log book, for "Operation Mop Up", we deployed on Hercules 168, Pilot Flt Lt Dyson of 36 Sqn, from Lynham to Wyton on the 21st January. Robbie James set up the mounting operation at Wyton, and I continued on up to Abbotsinch (as Glasgow airport was then known) with two of the guys in the now loaded 168 to set up the offload end. However, after only one further sortie, the operation was abandoned.

Although I can’t remember the actual ‘why’ I suspect that because of the quantities involved and to avoid double handling with the building and breakdown of the pallets, it was switched to a road operation. Meanwhile, we recovered by rail on 23rd. Apart from the storm damage, my only other 40 year old memory is of a very pleasant evening out in the company of the red-headed lass who worked the flight indicator board at Abbotsinch!

I’ll copy this to Tony Gale for the Old Boys brief, in case there are some additional memories of this task out there. For example, I can’t remember who else came on up to Abbotsinch with me, although I suspect it would have included Bob Turner (as interpreter).

Happy days!
David Powell (F Team 1967-69)

Good stuff David!

The World's largest toy distributor is McDonald's.

From: Alex Masson, Chelmsford
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 14:22
Subject: Your New Site

Thank you Tony,

Your latest ‘brief’ 032808 has been viewed, and very impressive too. Thank you for including my Christmas Island input. Our CO Jack Riley, Jim Aitken, John Holloway, Peter Brown and Dennis (Dean) Martin have already seen most of that previously (I think!). They are all of the 1950’s vintage, apart from Jack – who, as he himself says, goes back to the days even before Pontious was a Pilot!

However, reading up on your past briefs I note that most members are from the 1960’s onwards and I was wondering if my stories would really be too boring for them? Are they seriously interested in what went on in the ‘dark ages’, before Movement Schools, before pallet loading and with minimal mechanical loading aids?

Jim Aitken’s article with photo brought back fond memories – That’s just as I remember Corporal ‘Jim’ and I have vague recollections of Sgt Abrahams. I served with Jim for a short time and remember him well at Lyneham in ’55 but as I was then just a ‘sprog’, he didn’t remember me.

Congratulations on your new site. It is, as you predicted, very good indeed. However, I was unable to go from ‘Home Page’ to the ‘Briefs’ – is this something which you have yet to tweak? – or is it just me, lost, as usual?!!!

There is a cheque in the post to you as my contribution/subscription for this year. Let me know when it arrives safely!

Cheers,

Alex.

I really can’t speak for others, but I personally am getting more and more fascinated with history the older I get. I did enjoy your tales and look forward to perhaps seeing more, eventually putting it all together as an article – we really don’t have enough of the early days on the site and I for one would like to see more before it all gets lost to the sands of time.

As for navigation - fairly straightforward:

Quill & Ink for the Briefs Index, then the individual newsletters are numbered in Date format MMDDYY - the latest being at the end of the list. Once you are in an individual Brief, clicking on the Quill and Ink will bring you back to the Briefs Index.

Camera for the Photo Pages, Once you are in an individual photo page, clicking on the Camera brings you back to the Photographs Index page.

File Folder for the Member's pages. Clicking on the front of the folder 'Members' takes you to the Members main page where there is a world clock, notice board of upcoming events and the Application for Membership... and clicking on the individual file tabs will take you to the Member's listing pages.

Clicking on the Globe from within any of the pages brings you back to the Home page.

Everything else on the home page works as a link (with the exception of the 'faded' Operations) - just move your cursor around and if it turns into a hand then a left click will take you to that page. But then you figured all that out already - right?

Thank you for the donation - I'll let you know when it arrives.

 

From: James Aitken, Brisbane
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 17:41
Subject: Air Chief Marshall Sir Keith Park

Hi Tony

Just to follow up on my last concerning ACM Sir Keith Park.

The friend in New Zealand I referred to is Derek Lehrle, an ex RAF signals techie from the 1950s. He has been agitating for some recognition of this "son of New Zealand" through the Thames Historical Museum, Thames being the birthplace of Keith Park.

Below is the reply Derek has just received.............

"Yes I whole heatedly agree with you about Thames and Keith Park. I actually brought up about him at the last Museum committee meeting and we are planning on having some publicity and a display on the anniversary of his birth - June 15, later on this year.

Actually he was only born in Thames and shifted to Auckland when he was 6. The Museum of Transport and Technology  have a lot about him in the Walsh Memorial Library,

The Thames RSA had a bit about Keith but when I inquired about it several years ago, they didn't even reply to my letter.  To be quite honest with you I think that the Thames RSA was a dead loss.  I believe that the propeller of his plane is over at the ATC at the Thames airport and yes it is a place that no one sees.

A letter is probably in the post at this moment to the editor of the Hauraki Herald asking if anyone knows about him or any other famous Thamesites.

Be assured that we are trying to do our best to have him recognized.

Cheers

Frances Burton (Pres. Thames Historical Museum. )"

Ms Burton's frankness in relation to the RSA (Returned Services Assn.) at Thames also echoes my thoughts on the organisation in it's entirety. My email to the National HQ in Auckland remains unanswered or perhaps ignored !

Hooroo

Jim Aitken

King George III once referred to Ben Franklin as an "evil genius."

From: Charles Collier, Marlborough
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 17:55
Subject: Institute of Transport Administration

Hello Tony,

As you know I'm a member of the Institute of Transport Administration (IoTA) where at Swindon I'm the chairman. Well, today I received an e-mail from IoTA HQ to ask me to go to RAF Brize Norton on Wednesday 2nd April to represent IoTA at a ceremony to mark the contract signature for the Air Movement Operations (AMO) requirement.

AMO is a UK MOD requirement to give movements staff the ability to manage passenger and freight bookings, flight check-in and aircraft loadsheet calculations in both the UK and any operational location around the world.

Thales' (the firm getting the contract) solution to AMO - "Swift2move" - is a new secure IT application developed in house, which can be used for any military logistics scenario, not just air operations. It combines an easy to use solution from the commercial world, with added robustness and security needed for ops in a military environment. Thales has partnered with sub-contractors Fujitsu Services and Mastek to develop this technology. The Swift2move is one of the first major applications to operate on the MOD's Defence Information Infrastructure. The contract is valued in excess of £27M over 10 years which includes support and training.

I'm glad I joined this institute when I left the RAF in 1991 it is the only one that has remained an autonomous transport organisation and has not been absorbed into another like the Chartered Institute of Transport which has lost it's title to another. So, if any of you want to join the only pure transport institute there is then contact me and I'll put them right.

Many regards

Charles

From: John Holloway, Shrewsbury
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 18:13
Subject: Re-Your new Site

Hi Tony

I like the new site;well done although when I first briefly looked thru it and didn't see Mauripur and thought you'd missed it; then I saw that ELEPHANT !!!!!

Again well done.

cheers

jhy

Thanks! I just knew I wouldn't be able to sneak that one by you John. The station badge for RAF Mauripur depicting an elephant is apparently an unofficial badge. The only elephant in the area was in the Karachi zoo.

Chocolate and avacados are highly toxic to parrots.

From: Peter Clayton, Wroughton
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008
To: Alex Masson
Subject: Christmas Island

Hi Alex,

Just wondered if you ever heard of 'Flit' Clayton while at Christmas Island, he used to fly around the Island spraying DDT in an Auster Mk 9. From his log book he arrived Christmas Island 6 October 1957 onboard a Super Constellation and started flying the Auster regn XK410 the next day and later Auster regn WZ698 until he left by Hastings Mk1 regn TG582 on 18 July 1958. Interestingly the same Hastings as in this weeks brief. He was a F/Sgt Pilot in those days, I note he also flew some trips in a Dakota to Malden and also some on Hastings.

That man 'Flit' as everyone knew him (because of the spraying) was my Father, sadly he is no longer with us, he died in Hong Kong in 1984.

Regards

Peter Clayton
A Team UKMAMS Lyneham
1975-78

 

From: Alex Masson, Chelmsford
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 21:40
To: Peter Clayton
Subject: RE: Christmas Island

Peter,

Hello! Most interesting!  I was aware, as we all were, of the “flit spraying” Auster XK410 which sprayed our tent lines daily with DDT – in fact someone once remarked that we were more at risk from the DDT than we were from the ‘radiation’ from the bombs.

If your father arrived on Christmas Island on the 6th October 1957 I suggest it was after the mutiny  - which occurred about  July 57 – by this time I had been relieved of duty on the Island  and was back in the UK. - I suspect your father was the replacement for the original pilot who sprayed us in 1956 and early in 1957. I actually got to know the original “Captain Flit” who was a Flt Lt and a most interesting character. I guess it was your father who replaced him!

Notwithstanding – I am so interested in your family history! I am so sorry to learn that your dad died in 1984. Dare I ask how old he was when he died?  I will be 72 this year and although I spent 14 days under canvas at ground zero on Malden Island, back loading all the flash and recording equipment from Malden to Christmas on the Dakota’s, I’m still pretty healthy!!  with no ill effects!!

Thanks for coming back to me. Just ask if you need to know more.

Alex.

The last song the Beatles recorded was "I Me Mine."

From: Peter Clayton, Wroughton
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 05:19
To: Alex
Subject: Re: Christmas Island

Alex

Thanks for getting back to me so soon.  I remember Dad telling me about the spraying, I recall he sprayed the Officer's Mess one day when they were having a 'do', he was not popular!

Dad was only 61 when he died of cancer of the throat etc.  I felt then that it was something to do with the 'tests' and I recall some people trying to get compensation.  We never took up the case, which I sometimes regret, knowing how the authorities behave it would have been an uphill struggle I guess.  It still upsets me to think about how 'young' he was when he died but I do have some fond memories of our times together in Hong Kong, making up lost time.

I never heard about the Mutiny, what was that all about then, conditions I guess?

Thanks again.

Peter

 

From: Alex Masson, Chelmsford
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 06:53
To:Peter Clayton
Subject: RE: Christmas Island

Peter,

Hello again! Your Dad would certainly have been most unpopular, doing that job at any time of day – however, it did resolve the ‘fly’ problem which was so bad at one time that when eating one’s food one had to be continuously fanning the plate to stop the hordes descending on the meal – even then, as the fork came up from the plate, several flies had jumped on and frequently chaps would get them in their mouths. When I returned to the UK I amused everyone at home by fanning my plate – it had just become a daily habit, as did wiping one’s ‘irons’ with finger and thumb to remove the film of dust which would settle on them.

Many people who developed cancer thought it was a legacy of the ‘BombTests’ – but a very large number, like myself, were not affected. Also, many people I have known since have died of cancer and they were never anywhere near Christmas Island. Also there was no common form of cancer which those Christmas Island veterans suffered.  The boffins, at the time, thought it would be a form of leukemia. Simply don’t know! You are, of course, quite right about the authorities – they just didn’t want to know!

Which brings me on to the mutiny – of which I musn’t mention, because, according to the authorities it didn’t happen.

The runways and the concrete hard standings and the permanent buildings (of which there were not many of the latter, but miles of the first) had all been built by the Royal Engineers.  They had served a tour in Korea and were on the troopship home when they were diverted, in the summer of 1956, to Christmas Island – understandably, they were none too happy, but they ‘bit the bullet’ as, they were told, it would be for less than a year.

Well, the first three big bombs were tested in May 1957 and at the conclusion everything was packed up – that’s when I spent two weeks on Malden Island (the target area – ground zero), the day after the last bomb had been exploded in order to air freight all the recording equipment etc back Christmas by way of the three Dakotas. The Engineers crated up the equipment and acted as loading party helping me to load the planes.  They were all extremely happy that it was all over and they would be going home. Every Section had a party! We were winding down.

Back on Christmas Island all the freight was sent by Hastings down to Australia – Woomera. ---- then suddenly all the same freight started coming back – when I drew the AMO’s (Air Movements Officer) attention to this he didn’t believe me – but I had seen those crates made, handled those crates onto the Dakotas, then onto the Hastings – so I knew they were the same crates.

Out of the blue a Station Parade was held. The first one we’d ever had, and we were addressed by the Island Commander, a Group Captain. He announced that although the test series was over the British Government had decided to do a further series and that we would all be staying for another two years!  Immediately the Engineers rioted – they ran amok – they wanted to get the CO – and for his safety he was flown off the Island, there and then, to Honolulu in a Canberra.  Tents went up in flames – crates of beer were stolen from the NAAFI store tent and the lads went on the piss and wouldn’t work! There were over 2,000 of us on the Island, Army, Navy and Air Force – but it was the Army who had the raw deal. It didn’t really bother me about staying there as I only had a few months until I was time-ex but those ‘squaddies’, some of them were in for a long time. 

The dozen or so SP’s were told ‘Not to do anything to inflame the situation and to keep low profile’ and there was a stand off for two or three days while telex messages flashed back and forth from London. Then, the deputy Commander called a casual parade and told us that we had got it all wrong, that the tests would continue, but not by us! A voice from the crowd yelled “What a load of b*****ks – we’ve seen all the messages (which of course was true because those guys were in communications) and the Govt has had to back pedal”

The deputy then did the right thing – he put his hands up and said that we were quite right and that each and every one of us would be replaced and on arrival of our replacement we would go home. He asked if we were satisfied by that – and with the proviso that replacement would start immediately and take no longer than a few weeks in total – everyone agreed. And that’s how it was.

No – it wasn’t mutiny was it? Silly me!

Cheers, Alex.

The Eiffel Tower is repainted every 7 years - the paint weighs 60 tons.

From: Charles Collier, Marlborough
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 08:04
Subject: Aden was an eye opener 5

Hello Tony,

Herewith the next story; Aden Days 5

We returned from our interesting picnic in the shade of the massive boulder in the desert. As to how it got there in the first place, is lost in the sands of time. After some minor mechanical problems with our transport, which were deftly dealt with by the able bodied warriors filling the radiator with water from a pigskin container. We got on our way back to Nisab. There is a definite skill in desert driving over sand dunes for if you are not careful you can easily bottom the vehicle leaving it high and dry with wheels spinning. I quickly found this out when I was given a spell at the wheel; much to my embarrassment. Nevertheless, this was overcome by the expertise of the company with me and we were on our way without delay. It was not long before we arrived at Nisab and were delivered to our stockade home.

The next day we were invited to a gathering of the clan or, rather the tribe. We made our way on foot to the assembly point were a sizable number of people were gathering in a large circle. Alan and I were together and he was explaining what was going on. The food was being prepared and while we were waiting for this, a man made his way, entertaining the crowd as a sort of court jester. Alan warned me that he would be coming our way to administer olives which were tainted with a very bitter substance – so much so that you would have to spit it out much to the enjoyment of the assembled crowd.

I was handed the olive, I pulled my pistol out, tossed the olive into the circle in front of me, and shot it to pieces with one round. All the warriors stood up and fired their weapons into the air in jubilation!

The two pictures show Alan with his followers and me with a very proud warrior who insisted that I was to carry a rifle if I was to have my photo taken with him – so I did!

 

More next time.

Charles

 

From: Chris Clarke, Burlington, ON
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 09:48
Subject: RE: New Website

Hey Tony!

Nice site mate!

I’ll get around to doing that (rescanning) in the next few weeks, got house reno’s on the go plus I have just finished studying for the next rank exam (did the exam on Sunday, wish me luck!) and I have to complete a proposal for work (in my own time) by the 11th April. Life is busy but I should get time after the 11th. All my main PC stuff is packed away and I’m just on me laptop at the moment!

Chat soon!

Pig Clarke
UKMAMS Det Burlington

Owls cannot move their eyes - they have to move their heads.

From: David Powell, Princes Risborough
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:42
Subject: RE: New Website

Dear Tony

What a great excuse to pause marking 3rd year honours coursework and take a stroll around the upgraded OBA web-site. 

One thought/question.  The site includes a Paypal ‘donation’ box.  However, not ever having had a Paypal account or even used Paypal, any chance of a few words of guidance (possibly to help others of nervous disposition) in the next Brief – possibly prompted by this note, to explain how the OBA site donation box works?  If only to answer questions such as:
The payment site is in US dollars – how does this get taken from my UK plastic?  Is it the same as shopping in New York with my UK Plastic Card?

How do I know that having filled in the details – the donation will be heading to where I want it to go, namely to help support the excellent briefs and web-site running costs? 

Do I have to open a Paypal account?

Meanwhile – thank you for an excellent site.  Must go and a ferret in the miscellaneous shoe-box and see if I can find anything of interest to scan in.

David

 

From: Tony Gale, Gatineau/Ottawa
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:28
To: David Powell
Subject: RE: New Website

Hi David,

I am so pleased that I was able to offer a diversion.

Donations are relatively easy to make via PayPal and you don’t need to set up an account.

You will be required to fill out a form with basic questions; name, address, telephone number and card information (it is a secure website – you will know because the address will start with “https”), you’ll see UKMAMS Old Bods Association across the top of the PayPal screen.

The amounts of the donation is expressed in Canadian funds and will be converted to Stirling (or the native currency of your credit card) and charged to your card at the official rate of exchange on the date of the transaction.

As soon as the transaction has been verified you will receive an e-mail notification of this.The transfers are immediate. I will receive a notification that the funds are in my PayPal account and then I will let you know they have been received.

The PayPal fees for their services are taken off this end and are minimal.

(The reason I have the donation payable in Canadian dollars is because “foreign” funds being transferred from overseas to a Canadian bank account can take up to 30 business days to clear (45 days in reality) – it’s a huge bank scam and they all do it.)

I trust this makes you feel a little more comfortable David, if you have any more questions I’d be happy to help you.

Regards

Tony

Many thanks for the contribution David - greatly appreciated.

Astronauts get "spacesick" so often that the space shuttle toilet has a special setting for vomit [Yeuch!]

From: Bruce Oram, Alicante
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 01:25
Subject: re: New Website

Hi Tony

Just had a look at the new look site, it is fantastic. Really sharp and easy to navigate around, you must have put in many hours to achieve this.

Thanks for all the time and effort you put in to keep everyone in touch

Cheers

Bruce Oram

Too, too kind - thanks Bruce. Let's see, about six weeks of maybe 14 hours a day... but I was listening to your show on TKO Gold! all the time.

 

From: Chris Kirby, Alps
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 06:06
Subject: Re: New Website

Greetings Tony,

Splendid work on the new website, first impressions are really good: crisp professional looking graphics and all those articles readily available to read. Am looking forward to navigating round the site asap.

Noticed that some of my details in the membership list are out of date, if you wish to amend them next time you are doing some updating. Left the RAF in Nov 2003, currently resident in Scotland (summer) & Fench Alps (winter), and the e mail address shown on site is an old one no longer used.

Last but not least, I have for some time been meaning to get some funds to you to help with operating expenses. I don't have a Paypal account (yet) but can sort one out if ths is the best way of transferring funds. Any suggestions ?

Best wishes.

Rip Kirby

Your listing has been corrected Rip - please see my e-mail to David (above) regarding the PayPal donations.

The Great Fire of London (1666) destroyed 13,200 homes but caused only 6 recorded fatalities.

From: Alex Masson, Chelmsford
To: Peter Clayton
Sent: Monday, 31 March,
Subject: Christmas Island

Peter,

Great sadness about your Dad! He certainly died before his time. One wonders if it could have been the radiation. All the bombs were ‘clean’ when I was there just before dad, but I did hear of one of the explosions  just off the end of Christmas Island failed to detonate at the correct altitude and went off much lower causing a lot of sea water to be sucked up, contaminated and then fell as rain on the Island. It certainly makes one wonder. The other possible contributing factor is that he was frequently in close proximity with DDT!

I take it you are still working as, I guess you are only about 53.  I see you live at Wroughton. That used to be the location of an RAF Hospital in my day and Canberra WJ 676 stood outside the gates.

I trust you received details of the Christmas Island Mutiny in my last exchange – Tony Gale was quite intrigued and like so many did not know it happened!

Cheers,

Alex

 

From: Peter Clayton, Wroughton
Sent: 01 April 08
To: Alex Masson
Subject: Re: Christmas Island

Alex

Interesting information about the test that went wrong but also the DDT, I guess not much was thought about Health & Safety then!

Yes I got the bit about the mutiny, good on em' for standing up to the man in charge.

The RAF Hospital at Wroughton is long gone now, it closed not long after I moved here, at one time I owned one of the ex-RAF married quarters at Thorney Park.  Lived there for 12 years but now I am down in the village.  Of course not many years before the Hospital shut they put in a new scanner etc, cost £6million and then they decided to close!  The whole site has now been cleared and replaced by housing and a new Conference Centre, the airfield still houses the Science Museum, they did used to hold airshows there but I think Lyneham was unhappy about gung ho fighter pilots buzzing their air space!

I wish I was only 53, I will be 60 this year and I am going back to Singapore & Malaysia to celebrate with some Tiger beer and Satay, cant wait till June.  I expect I will see a few changes!!!

Cheers

Peter

World's first speed limit? England, 1903 - 20 mph

From: John Holloway, Shrewsbury
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 09:00
Subject: Re: New Website

Hi Tony

Yes the new site is as I said before is great.

I've had a few random trawls and I note that you have lost the details of Brief no OBB 062003.

Just to let you know I have print-out of this Brief and many more; I used to have reams of used paper from the office on which I used to print out on the back copies of most letters etc and even some articles; so if there is anything you are short of I'll have a look through the stash I have and if needed I can snail-mail them to you. If so let me know your full address and I can post them to you.

As for more old memories that you mentioned to Alex, I think I've pretty well exhausted mine that would be of any interest to the lads, however I'll have a look back thru the Mauripur 'Sandscript' newsletters and see if there is anything of interest there.

cheers

jhy

Thanks John - I appreciate that.

 

From: Charles Collier, Marlborough
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:54
Subject: A day at Brize Norton

Hello Tony, Herewith my day out at Brize Norton - this is the magazine article I told you about.

Rgds

Charles

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A DAY AT RAF BRIZE NORTON AS A GUEST OF THE INTERNATIONAL DEFENCE CONTRACTOR – THALES

Imagine my delight as I was told that I was to represent IoTA at a press event at RAF Brize Norton covering the contract placement of a comprehensive application called Swift2Move to the contractor Thales (rhymes with palace). During my RAF career I had departed from Brize Norton to the four corners of the world, so this visit was all the more poignant!

Thales is a leading international electronics and systems group, addressing defence, aerospace and security markets worldwide. Although French, it has a UK component employing 9,000 staff at more than 50 locations.

We were taken to Thales lecture room where the company executives explained the organisation and approach of the firm’s application to the assembled delegates. These included a number of RAF officers involved with the firm’s contract preparation at Brize Norton; and also civilians from the Thales Company as this was the successful conclusion of contract bidding which had now been victorious. All this was coming to a head in the signing by the MOD accepting Thales as the application provider.

Basically, all transport aircraft have to be loaded in a specific fashion as all aircraft are relatively fragile compared with other modes of transport and also move at high speed in three dimensions. Given the foregoing, all military loads on wheels are driven in by reversing up the ramp under strict guidance and being positioned over a particular floor compartment which the location of the axles is noted for floor loading and trim purposes and the whole vehicle locked down by chains to floor attachment points. If no motive power; then vehicles are winched up, but always in reverse, to afford a military exit in the forward area. In general, if these vehicles are being moved on exercise or to a theatre of operations then they are loaded to capacity with operational kit.

Of course, what I’m talking about is the Hercules type of aircraft with a rear loading ramp but all transport aircraft are not the same! However, the same criteria apply: loading of passengers and freight has to be recorded and balanced with aircraft’s centre of gravity (CofG) within the range allowed.

In the non-ADP days all this loading was transcribed by pen or pencil onto a load sheet called a trim sheet in RAF parlance. The loading and positioning of all freight would then provide a C of G either within parameters or - not so - in which case load adjustments would have to take place. After this the payload would have to be compared with the aircraft fuel weight as there is a balance to work out as the fuel load + payload must not cause the aircraft’s Maximum All Up Weight (MAUW) to be surpassed. This all had to be negotiated and either fuel not loaded to the full diversion requirement or non-priority freight – if there is any - offloaded.

So, as we were shown, all this has been streamlined and a movement’s clerk now monitors and records the loading on to a laptop as it happens. The positioning of equipment in compartments can be accomplished before loading using the Swift2move application in planning form with the entire load given the best fit for the volume available. Also there is the facility to view loading in 3D which gives the opportunity to look under the – for example – a helicopter as there is space under the rear boom of the ‘copter for loading suitable freight. The equipment is then loaded in that order.

The Swift2Move application encompasses all facets of Air Movement from passenger check-in, seat allocation and the issue of boarding cards to all the routine of cargo loading and documentation. This includes: positioning; tie-down; the tracking of Unit Load Devices (ULD’s) which are the containers that carry baggage or freight and are locked down in the aircraft’s compartment during flight but are offloaded at the terminal and taken away. Hence, the reason for tracking their movement from then on!

Thales then provided a buffet lunch after which I then thanked the senior executive for his firm’s excellent presentation which I found most absorbing.

First the Chunnel and now this - Question - has anybody checked the Dome des Invalides recently?

There's no such thing as a Cornish game hen - they're just young chickens, 2 lbs or less

From: Tim Newstead, Cheltenham
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 05:45
Subject: Re: New Website

Hi Tony

Many congratulations on the new website - it is excellent and, as webmaster for the RAF Servicing Commando & TSW Association site (http://www.tswscdoassn.co.uk/) it gives me something to aim for - it might take a while!  Well done!

The new site is certainly easier to navigate - and caused me to check out the info on Op SHOVELLER in 1970. UKMAMS was also involved in Op SHOVELLER in 1970 as my logbook will testify, yet there is no mention - probably because, until now, no one had let you know!

My logbook shows 7 trips in to Amman from Nicosia and Akrotiri on a Cargolux CL-44 (sitting on a crate of Keo, I recall) along with a Herc and an Argosy. I do remember being "buzzed" while in an Argosy over Damascus by a couple of Syrian Migs, flying over the infamous Dawson's Field where 3 airliners (BOAC VC-10, TWA and Swissair) ended up after being hijacked and were subsequently blown up in early September 1970.

I remember too that we had to join the Red Cross before we flew and had to travel in civilian clothes, having lodged all military clothing, ID and insignia etc at Nicosia before departure. Cpl Ian Berry was working as a "stacker" in the clothing stores at Nicosia at the time and issued us with some "civilian" clothing!

Sadly, I cannot remember for sure who the other UKMAMS team members were - possibly Flt Sgt Bob Hope, Sgt DK Henderson, Cpl Jimmy Jones, and SAC Harry Jones? Does anyone remember?

Anyway, keep up the good work.

Best regards to all

Tim Newstead


Thanks Tim - I've updated the article to include your information - I checked out your website and was amazed at what the TSW do - I honestly wasn't aware of that before!

 

From: Roger Whittington, Merseyside
To: Dave Cromb
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:00 PM

Dave,

You really have been through the mill lately. Glad to see that you are getting better and taking everything in your stride as usual.

Take care now

Roger Whittington (ex star striker of Compton Bassett F.C. - not!)

In 1892 Italy raised the minimum marrying age for females - to 12

From: David Cromb, Brisbane
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 17:34
To: Roger Whittington
Cc: Nige Stevens; Tony Gale; William Nangle

Thks champ,great to hear from you.Sure just a few of life's little idiosyncrasies it likes to challenge one with, but thus far we seem to be overcoming them.

You heard from Chris Thistle of late?, "NEWFIE" Nangle has also resurrected himself from the depths of Canada, he lives just down the track from Tony Gale,webmaster UKMAMS OBA.

Couple of possible interested parties listed , talk amongst yourselves if it suits. Life here continues to be fine,different ball game now of course with  both Chris & Chantal having flown the nest,down side ,there has to be one eh, is the shack is too large for just the 2 of us.We considered ' downsizing ' but decided against it in the end,it's been a good family home & will be a solid
inheritance for the young ones, one day,which is some time away we hope.

My freight forwarding business is solid and continues to give me heaps of satisfaction & generates a modest income, but most importantly, I am in control of my own destiny,which of course is brilliant.

My websites are in dire need of some tlc which I must attend to soonest as is my life's story,Dartford to Oz,My Story.

So young fella, life is pretty much full on and we love it.You take care & plse keep in touch ok, hi to all you cc'd dudes.

Cheers,

DC.

 

From: Basil Hughes, Pattaya
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 04:25
Subject: Re: Gordon Woods

Dear Tony,

Sorry to hear about Gordon but at least he is out of pain now. RIP

Tony when was the MAMS flight at Abingdon started? I was on the MAMS flight before being posted to ATDU at Abingdon but that was in the mid sixties.

Why I ask? well... I was called up 30th Oct 1957 after completing my apprenticeship as a shipwright, reported to Cardigan for three days then Bridgenorth for Basic training and then Clerk Air Movements training in the Spring of 1958.

On completion I was posted to Wildenrath Air Movements. I was still an LAC when the Squadron Leader came to the billets early one night before we had a chance to  disappear to the Naafi of the Cinema. We all had to stand by our beds and then he and the Flight Sergeantt questioned every man – Both parents living? Single? Not Engaged?

Six of us were then selected and he told us that he had been ordered to detach six volunteers for Air Movement Duties in the Middle East. As “volunteers” we were then escorted to Sick Quarters where we were given a variety of injections including TABT, Smallpox, Yellow Fever and others before being marched to the Stores to be kitted out with tropical kit. We then returned to our billet where we had to pack all our kit. Some was put in storage for us.

The next morning early six very sore “volunteers” were collected and marched to the Mess then to Air Movements where we found outthat we would not be flying from Germany to the UK but were being taken to catch a train for the Hook of Holland then a ferry to Harwich and then a train to RAF Innsworth. It was a nightmare of a journey because we were all suffering from the affects of the injections and the cook must have had an “off” day when he made up our rations.

Innsworth did not know what to do with us but billeted us overnight in a hut with beds but no bedding and the stores were already closed.  The next morning we were photographed for passports (valid for 6 months and then longer on production of our birth certificates) our injection papers were checked and we had to have one more jab into an already sore backside. More kit was issued but we still did not know where we were going. 

The following morning we were loaded on a 3 Tonner and taken to to an airfield and loaded on a Hermes Aircraft.  The route took us over most of Northern Africa as there was several countries we could not overfly and I remember names like Kano and Entebbe finally arriving at Aden where the original six were split up and flown to different bases by Beveley.

Two of us ended up at Sharjah, a base surrounded by sand with a sand runway which was inspected every morning for mines. Water was rationed and our drinking water had a film of oil on the top and half an inch of sand in the bottom of the bottle.  Besides Bev’s we loaded Valetta’s and a Pembroke. At times we were also pressed into service loading Shacks , half a squadron being based there. We also had Venoms . Bread was flown from Bahrain but was mouldy on the second day and the food was not good.

We returned to the UK in late October after being in SNCO  Quarters at Bahrain on special diet and medication for dysentery as the MO said we were not medically fit to travel and could not return to our Unit. We were sent on sick leave  from 7PDU Innsworth until after Christmas. I weighed just under seven stone, my normal weight was 10 stone.

On 1st Jan 1959 I returned to RAF Wildenrath  Air Movements  (Weight and Balance and Trim Sheet) was promoted to SAC, sent on sick leave for another six weeks  then on my return promoted to Corporal and detached to RTO Hamburg on Air Mov. Duties. This involved traveling to Jever and Sylt sorting out loads for aircraft and doing Weight and Balances mainly for squadrons coming up to those bases for training. There was no Officer or SNCO with me so I was all on my own and was doing this for 15 months.

Looking Back  this was all jobs that would later have been done by MAMS or would they?

Regards to All

Bass

Certainly sounds like it Bass, there were a lot of chaps doing similar stuff before the Squadron was officially formed at Abingdon in 1966

Princess Diana had to call Prince Charles "Sir" until they were formally engaged.

From: Basil Hughes, Pattaya
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 06:49
Subject: Christmas Island

Tony,

My memories of my year on the Island. I was i/c POL and the Port Tank Farm which the auditors refused to dip as we were pumping fuel including Avgas and JP4 with hot running Morris commercial petrol engines and lost the complete pipeline contents every time we pumped (1700 gallons).

The resupply was by tanker which had to anchor way off shore and transfer the fuel to lighters which were then towed to the jetty.

We lived at London  village at the port and the airfield was 17 miles away.

Bass

www.cenquest.co.uk/Basil

 

From: David Cromb, Brisbane
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 20:42
Subject: New website.

Hello mate,sorry  tas taken so long to respond to yr most welcome mail.

What can I say, it's simply magic,and up to yr v high standards. If I had a reservation it would be lack of foto's but I assume there is a more than adequate reason for that.

Yeah I know I owe pix for Oman, I still haven't gotten around to adding the scanner to the confuser, sorry buddy, where duz the time go nowadays.

The guest book is open for all to sign but as off a short while ago, no entries, why is that I wonder. If one has signed the orig guest book should we also sign the new one I wonder? wouldn't do any harm I suppose.

Overall it is an excellent read and some of the younger generation will get an excellent insight of  what the real UKMAMS was & represented.

Oh well things to do so must  push on, so much for lazy Sundays eh. Take care mate and I'll do my level best to get pix to you soon.

Warmest rgds,
DC.

Thanks DC - the reason for the new guestbook is because some folks were having difficulties getting past the new security verification screen - so I shopped around for another provider. Yes, of course you can make an entry - the more the merrier :o)

The side of a hammer is called a "cheek."

From: Jimmie Durkin, Stafford
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 05:11
Subject: New Website

Hi Tony

Congratulations on producing the new website. Excellent.

I think your third paragraph sums up all that needs saying, 'I personally believe that our new ambassador is very unique and a fitting representation of who we were, what we did and the difference we made to people’s lives around the world.' -

Well done.

Best wishes,

Jimmie

Thanks Jimmie


From: Peter Clayton, Wroughton
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 13:46
Subject: Luanda October 1975- Portuguese Airlift to Lisbon

Hi

I found this picture in an old album, it shows just what we had to use to get the refugee baggage to the VC-10.  The day I scrounged this dumper truck I turned up by the aircraft and asked the crew to open the freight door, you should have seen their faces.  This was because I was always in the tool shops in Luanda, they were the only ones with anything left worth buying.  Some of the engineers used to come in and I would get behind the counter as I knew where all the tools were.  I kidded the crew into thinking I had bought the dumper truck and wanted to send it back home!

Does anyone else have memories of that Luanda operation, I should write an article about it one day.

Regards

Peter

Thanks Peter - there's already a place on the home page reserved for the article! That's one ugly lady sitting on the dumper with you!

The letter combination "ough" can be pronounced in eight different ways.

Mystery Photo 041108

 

From: Alex Masson, Chelmsford
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 06:11
Subject: OB 032808 - mystery aircraft

Hello Tony

Your mystery aircraft depicted in OBB 032808 is, of course an Avro Andover C1 -  It was, some years ago, 1980/90’s used by the Ministry of Defence at RAF Boscombe Down, which was the Aircraft and Armament Experimental Establishment, located near Amesbury (my home village where I was brought up as a young lad) in Wiltshire.

I believe it was used by them for Photographic work with the Defence Test and Evaluation Organisation.

Other than that, I can’t tell you much more.

Cheers Alex.

You are almost correct sir…  it’s a modified Hawker Siddley HS780 Andover C1 converted for photo-reconnaissance and is the UK-designated aircraft under the Treaty on Open Skies based at Boscombe Down.

Venice gondola rule of thumb - if it isn't painted black then it belongs to a high official.

From: Terry Mulqueen, Hastings
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:01
Subject: Memories of a Battle Hardened "War Veteran" !!

Your latest E.Mail and your statement quote: "The difference we made to people's lives around the world" brought a tear to my eye when I think back on the part I played in that long forgotten battle/conflict/war waged back in the late 70's on a dark and dusty battlefield somewhere in Central America.

Yes of course I refer to the famous struggle to protect Belize from the "marauding hordes" from across the border in Guatemala. I will never forget the days we spent with pick and shovel digging ourselves in, it must have been all of 1 or 2 days and I remember someone did the digging!!

The continual propoganda broadcast by the enemy, oh how scary, and the questions from the locals especially will it stop the "Charger" production.

Our front line forces were heavily into training, 6 gallant warriors from Hereford, and the good old flyboys showed their presence in the form of the Harrier Jump Jet Strike Force (I'm sure there should have been more than one!) The boys from Hereford left us the day before the threatened attack, either to go diving or position themselves in Guatemala, we never did know.

We found out that day what exactly the enemy attack was all about, apparently they laid claim to a certain tree that produces the sap used in the manufacture of good ol' chewing gum. We knew the Yanks had to be to blame somehow!

None of us had a good night's sleep on the eve of "hell" (mainly because the Mess was dry!!), and at Sunrise we waited for the hordes to charge.They didn't reckon on our dastardley ploy though, our Harrier took off, practicing a "fly past" and scared the s*it out of them.

We all sat around bemused for a good 5 minutes, realised what had happened and got back to some real work, getting the vehicles ready for our "Victory Parade" downtown---IT WAS ALL OVER.

Of course we were all heroes, after all we'd saved their country, they knew how we'd fought for them and rightly showed their appreciation. One strange thing though,we never did see those brave boys from Hereford again, maybe they're still in that steamy jungle awaiting the action.

Of course there always has to be something or someone who brings you down to earth again, and this time that fell to a MAMS "prat" who shall forever remain nameless but stay in the dark recess of my memory, who, when arriving a few days later to "relieve" us, kindly pointed out that our workplace was very scruffy and could do with a good clean up. Didn't he realise we'd been up to our necks in muck/sweat and bullets for the last week or so - well sweat anyway!!

Still, we who were there have the T-shirt with that unique quote on it's back: "I FOUGHT IN THE BELIZE WAR - ALL MORNING"

Regards,

Terry Mulqueen. (Purple Charger and Bar)

Thanks Terry - brings a lump to my throat <gulp>  

 

From: Konrad Putu (Puts), Wellington
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 20:02
Subject: OBA Membership Application

I exchanged with Martin Turner and was put under the care of Owen Connell and Mal Pulfrey at Brize before being passed onto Mick Maybery, Speedy, and Martin Leggitt. I was then dispatched to UKMAMS under the watchful eye of Tim Pyne.

Hope all is well guys. I have rejoined the RNZAF and hope to catch up with a few of you all around the traps.

Puts

Thanks Puts - your timing was perfect as I've just set up the new membership pages for the "OBA Allies" RNZAF, RAAF and RCAF members. Welcome to the OBA Allies!

The names of all the continents end with the same letter that they started with.

From: Tony Gale, Gatineau/Ottawa
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 08:24
To: Brian Lay, Wellington, NZ
Subject: UKMAMS Old Bods Allies - ready for take-off

Hi Brian,

It’s been a few years since we’ve corresponded – I had a major health issue which meant that I couldn’t continue with the original OBA.

We are back now and I have just spent the last 6 weeks re-inventing the whole website so that now it’s a shiny new format.

Thank you very much for volunteering to be a liaison for the RNZAF area of the organisation  – I’ve just this minute uploaded the first page – http://www.ukmamsoba.com/rnzaf_portal.html   have a looksee and let me know if it’s okay for you.  My initial thought is that we would have a separate member’s page, such as the one you see, but then the articles, photographs and newsletters would be common to all.

I’m establishing contacts in the RAAF and the RCAF to develop something similar – where they will have their individual member’s page on the site and then share everything else.

So Brian, let’s get this thing rolling – membership from the RNZAF side of things will be open to Movers and ex-movers alike – all genders accepted (that’s why I changed the title from ‘Old Boys’ to ‘Old Bods’ ).

First task I think would be to spread the word among your ranks, suggest they fill out the Application for Membership on your page and let things take their natural course for now.

Oh yes, I’ve placed a Kiwi on the home page as a link to your page – and clicking on the Globe from within your page takes you back to the home page.

Looking forward to seeing this project take off.

Best regards,

Tony Gale


From: Peter Clayton, Wroughton
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 15:51
Cc: Martin Liggett
Subject: Pictures of Geoff Simpson

Tony

I e-mailed a message to Geoff via Martin, I hope he got it OK. 

Looking back through my scrapbook I found some old rowing photos of Geoff (the cox) when we were both in the RAF Brize Norton rowing team.  When we were at our peak, we represented the RAF in the Inter Services Regatta at Pangbourne on 17 June 1972. I am copying Martin in so that he can show the photos to Geoff.  Maybe they can go in the brief as well.

 

 

The photo of the 'eight' is us rowing the Head of the River race on the Thames in London.

 

You might spot Steve Broadhurst in the middle of the boat with white headband and I am seated behind him with the wool hat on.

 

Geoff of course is the cox with the loud hailer shouting at us to 'give it ten'.  We were fit in those days.

 

 


 

I recall training on the river at Abingdon through the winter and driving back to BZZ and having a couple of pints on the way at one of those lovely old Oxfordshire pubs. 

We called ourselves 'Hobb's Crew' after a famous Henley Boat Yard, good days!

Cheers for now.

Peter

Hands up everyone that recited the names of all the continents to themselves!

From: David Cromb, Brisbane
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 16:46
Subject: Re: Geoff Simpson

Morn TG from a v wet Bn
.
Many thks for mail re old drinking partner Geoff, he was a member of the ' Lion ' pub Abingdon team.

His finale every gathering was to try to take the owners hound, a bloody big alsation named Juna, for a walk, was more like the other way round !

I'll be in touch with Martin as suggested.

Cheers,

DC.

 

From: Tony Gale, Gatineau/Ottawa
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 13:17
To: 'David Cromb'
Cc: Nangle, Bill
Subject: Who d'ya know?

Hey DC

Who d’ya know in the RAAF Air Movements world?

I went to boot camp (Boy Entrant) with Connor Nannery – Commanding Officer of RAAF William – but I haven’t seen his name on the net in a number of years – he may have retired.

I mentioned starting a “UKMAMS Old Bods Association Allies”  a while ago – you may  have missed it ‘cos you were being rude and not talking to anyone when you were having parts of your body removed.

Anyway – I have the RNZAF kick started no problem – Got to touch up Bill Nangle for the Canadian side (need an Air Movements contact in the RCAF – have copied him in on this) and I need to find someone in the RAAF Air Movements world – just to get the word spread around.

The pages are up on the OBA website just waiting for victims – I mean members  – from the home page just click on the pretty red pictures of the Kiwi, Maple Leaf and Roo….

Cheers

Tony

By the age of 15 a Tuna may have swum over one million miles

From: Peter Simpson, Crediton
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 17:02
Subject: A Few Updates

Dear Tony,
 
 
I have finally extracted myself from the woodwork, and thought I would let you know how pleased I am to see the new format OBA. You put a lot of hard work in, and I think it is about time I put my own arse into gear and sent a few anecdotes for the future.

For now, I just wanted to say how sorry I was to learn about Geoff Simpson - I have sent an email to the forwarding address you provided.
 
Pat and I have lived in Devon for the last 6 years, and I have been doing direct sales in the  mobility business for the last 4. My own little manufacturing company still provides a useful income each year, I just get someone else to do the spade work!...laughs.
 
I promise to put together a few stories for future editions, but meanwhile I am still getting over the shock of realising I can apply for my Winter Fuel Allowance and Bus Pass!
 
Good wishes to you, and to all who read the OBA Website
 
Peter Simpson ( Team Leader Lima, Abingdon - 1969-1971)  

The can opener was invented 48 years after cans were introduced.

From: William Nangle, Kingston ON
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 08:36
Cc: Dave Cromb
Subject: Re: Who d'ya know?

Hi Tony & Dave,

Regarding the Canadian Air Movements world.........It's a bit different from how the RAF is set up, for example all of our loadmasters start out as Movers (called Traffic Technicians here), and once trained as a loadie you do not always stay flying, you can go back to an Air Movements Squadron for a ground tour.  That's how I ended up flying as a LM on Chinooks.

I do have a couple of "high level" contacts still in the trade, one's a full colonel ;-)  I'm back to work tomorrow so I'll look up Col Matherson's email address for you.  He's an ex-CO of 2 Air Movement Squadron, and I'll also get my Sister-in-Law working on this as she (believe it or not) is a Lt Col in the trade and is a qualified herc LM !! 

I think it's a great idea, we can all learn from each other, and trust me, I know RAF Movements do things a hell of a lot different from Canadian Movements, and I'm sure the same goes for the Aussies and Kiwi Movers.

By the way, the snow has all disappeared and it looks like Spring has finally bloody sprung.  Five months of snow on the ground was a bit too much for me this year.

I hope you're behaving yourself DC....but knowing you I doubt it :-)

Cheers all.

Bill

Thanks Bill - moving right along with the Allies - as for the snow - we are only an hour north of you but we still have mountains of the stuff hanging around - as you say 5 months was far too long.

A group of hares is called a 'Down' - A group of hairs is called a 'Wig'

From: Andy Jack, Sarasota, FL
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 13:04
Subject: RE: UKMAMS OBA Allies

Hi Tony,

I did 28 years in the RCAF, 25 in Movements and 3 in Safety Equiptment but that was boring. My carreer in Movements was anything but boring and yes I did Loadmaster duties.

I worked with the RAF at Nicosia in (I think) 1962. We moved the Royal 22 Vandoos into Nicosia for United Nations duties.

I am retired and have a home in Sarasota, Florida where I live during the winter months and I live in Brampton, Ontario during the summer  months.

Is Ian Envis still around? He must be  long retired by now

If possible I would like to get in touch with the RAF Movers I was stationed with in 1977-78 at Akrotiri Cyprus. Also a fellow named Dixie, a Loadmaster I think. Some of the other guys were Paddy, Henry, Jim and an old WO1 I think was Paul.


I will be in England for a few days in the fall and a friend told me that the Brit Movers have a pub they hang around, would you know where this is?

Cheers

Andy Jack

Thanks Andy - welcome to the OBA Allies. Interesting question - so where are the Mover's watering holes nowadays?

 

From: Brian Lay
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 17:42
To: Tony Gale
Subject: Unclassified UKMAMS Old Bods Allies - ready for take-off

Tony,

Thanks for your E-mails. Yes it is good that things are back on track with this. It's important to keep the links going as there are a lot of fond memories floating around.

I have visited the site and it looks great. I am in the process of tracking down ex RNZAF Movers and trying to source old photos and will update when these are found.

I was on Op Granby in the first Gulf war with 4 others from the RNZAF and we teamed up with the likes of Stu Whitton, Erica Best, Dougie Betambeau, Ray Ralf, Al Randle, Polly Parkins, Stevie Biggs, Reece Warner and many more who's names I can't remember.
 
Once again thanks for including us Kiwis in this site.

Cheers 

Brian Lay
RNZAF Air Movts Officer
Wellington/Paraparaumu Airports

Thanks Brian - your help in getting this off the ground is appreciated.

 

Paddy McGinn

Funeral arrangements are:

1330 Thursday 17th April at St James the Great, Albert Hill, Darlington (Map)

Linda realises that it is a long way to go and although all are welcome she does understand if people can’t make it.

Flowers may be sent to to Seaton Leng Funeral Directors, 59a Bondgate, Darlington, DL3 7JR (or online)

[From John Belcher, Lyneham] Very shocking news – Paddy was only 43, same age as me. I have attached a picture of Paddy, I am guessing around Spring 2002. He is on the right of the photo in the blue shirt. He did a number of runs out to an orphanage in Romania before leaving the RAF. He would arrange sponsorship and donations of equipment and then transport them to the orphanage with a couple of other Movers. The photo was taken with the sponsors and Wg Cdr Lee Doherty, OC UKMAMS at the time. Also in the picture, in the orange shirt, is Tony Stephens who went to Romania with Paddy many times.

 

This issue is dedicated
to the memory of
Gordon Woods

That's it for this issue

Sad times

Tony