25 June 2010

New members joining us recently are:

Mark Hounsell, Eastbourne, UK "Memories..."
Paul Stanford, Chelmsford, UK "Joined as Mov Op 1978, left in 2007"

Welcome to the OBA!


From: Ken Davie, Singapore
Sent: May-29-10 09:21
Subject: Singapore

Hi, Tony

Still working in Singapore at the Marina Bay Sands. We just opened a few weeks ago and are doing well so far. Check out the website It's an amazing project and only half built as yet although the casino is completed of course! Brenda is back home at the house in Connecticut and will be back in Singapore next week.

I'm amazed at the UKMAMS OBA website and all of the people on it and all of the people who have connected and started seeing and talking to each other again. It was a wonderful thing that you did and it has resonated through many lives. I was so glad to be one of the first to join. I hope that this finds you healthy and happy my old friend,


Thanks Ken - memories of late nights in Changi village come flooding back... the market stalls and the food...

The speed of a typical raindrop is 17 miles per hour

New Herc Makes Maiden Voyage

Peter MacKay, Canadian Minister of National Defence, waves at the crowd aboard the first brand new C-130J Hercules tactical airlift aircraft that was delivered at 8 Wing/CFB Trenton on Friday, June 4.

Flying at about 200 feet, the C-130J Hercules swooped over the base, tipping its wings during a fly past. A crowd of about 500 military personnel and civilians cheered as the aircraft turned east to make its landing approach.

The first of 17 new J-models was delivered six months in advance. Five more are expected to be delivered by the end of 2010 with the remainder delivered in 2011 and 2012.

The Trentonian

CC-130J Hercules gives CF loadmaster a second chance at flying

Sergeant Les Page has seen the world and then some. The Canadian Forces loadmaster from St. Catharines, Ont. has served 19 years in the Air Force and accumulated more than 3,000 flying hours on the CC-130 Hercules aircraft. He has served in Afghanistan seven times on Operation Athena and flown supplies to the far north during Operation Boxtop.

Before he got the call to join 436 (Transport) Squadron in 8 Wing Trenton, Ont. as a loadmaster on the new CC-130J Hercules, he was working as a loadmaster with 435 (Transport) Squadron at 17 Wing Winnipeg, Man. He thought he was being posted to a ground job in Trenton after five years of flying. Then, three days before he was leaving Winnipeg, he got the message that he was headed to 436 Squadron to fly aboard what has been described as the most advanced tactical airlifter in the world – the CC-130J Hercules.

“I thought my career in flying was over,” says Sgt Page. “In our occupation, you usually only get about four or five years of flying and then you get posted to an [air movements squadron] processing passengers and freight and loading aircraft. I got lucky and the chance came up. It’s sweet.”

Sgt Page says aside from having the opportunity to be part of the first group of air and ground crews flying the CC-130J model for the Canadian Forces, his new posting gives him the chance to continue doing what he loves.

“The quality of our pilots and the loadmasters I work with is just great. Having the chance to get the job done knowing that we can drop off the people and the freight to where it is needed is a great feeling. When we go into Afghanistan, for example, we can drop the troops their water. It gives them life, even hope for their future.”

Sgt Page’s boss, Warrant Officer Rick 'Flipper' Barrett, also a loadmaster with 436 Squadron, takes an equal amount of pride in knowing that he and his fellow loadmasters will play such a vital role in ensuring the troops in Afghanistan get the supplies they need when they need them. The Canadian Forces has been using legacy model CC-130 Hercules to fly supplies in and out of Afghanistan since 2001 and the Air Force will also deploy the J model as soon as feasible.

“The troops need the bullets, they need the beans, and they need the tentage, so it’s a real privilege to know that we’ll be able to drop it to them using this new platform. There are challenges, but it’s extremely rewarding to be at the pointy end of the sword using this new capability.

“Sometimes it’s almost overwhelming to put yourself in a position where you have responsibility to look after passengers, freight, aircraft security, customs, loading, unloading, safety, the whole nine yards. You put all that together and the amount of responsibilities that loadmasters have now with the acquisition of the CC-130J is almost overwhelming. But it comes down to training and a good sense of prioritization of your workload to get the mission done on time and on target.”


From: Charles Collier, Devizes
Sent: May-29-10 11:58
Subject: RAF Mystery Photo 051410

Hi Tony,

Keith Parker recognized me and the FS - John Boyd - correctly. The other chap was Sgt Penfold (whose first name now escapes me), and was an early computer "Geek".

It was the time of an AOC's Inspection around 1984 and the AOC is accompanied by the Stn Cdr and Wg Cdr Ops.



Thanks Charles!

More than ten people a year are killed by vending machines

Change of command at Brize

A new face is in command at RAF Brize Norton, Britain’s biggest RAF station. Air Commodore Jon Ager has handed over to Group Captain Dom Stamp. Gp Capt Stamp said: “I feel an immense sense of pride, and humility, in assuming command of such an important, operationally focused and historically acclaimed station.”

He joined the Royal Air Force in 1988 and trained to fly Hercules transport planes. He has seen service in the Gulf War, the Falkland Islands, the Balkans, Sierra Leone and the relief effort in Rwanda. He is also a qualified air transport flight instructor and display pilot.

Group Captain Stamp is married to Sheena and they have two children, daughter Deanna and son Euan. His interests include history, fitness training and playing music.

Air Cdre Ager has moved to a new post at Air Command, at RAF High Wycombe.


From: Budgie Baigent, Auckland
Sent: May-30-10 02:48
Subject: RNZAF Mystery Photo 052810

Hi Tony,

Seems like a few people are still on my case... I have no doubt Dave Milne sent you this latest pic!

Of course the ‘best’ part of the photo is missing [in the original], that is the face of W/O Budgie Baigent. The cane, or Maori 'Tokutoku' (talking stick) was first presented in 1987 and is carried by the Senior RNZAF Supply Warrant Officer as a symbol of valued ‘knowledge and wisdom’.

I inherited the cane back in 2005 and carry it with me when attending formal functions and parades. This latest pic was taken after a recent Advanced Trade Training graduation parade at RNZAF Woodbourne.

Kind regards,


Thanks Budgie, but it wasn't Dave Milne that sent this one in!

The earth rotates more slowly on its axis in March than in September

Air Force Boeing 757 Develops Ambulance Capability

The Royal New Zealand Air Force is developing an Aeromedical (AME) (air ambulance) capability to enable patients to be transferred safely around the world in its Boeing 757 aircraft. As a result the 757 has become a unique multi-role aircraft capable of being used in various roles including VIP, passenger only, freight only, combination of passengers and freight and now the AME role.

The AME platform will provide care for a wide range of situations from minor illness and injury to critical care. Due to its unique set up it has the ability to complete a bed to bed (hospital to hospital) transfer on one single stretcher.

It is designed as a roll-on roll-off palletised system and includes a High Dependency pallet for a critical care patient, work station pallet and medium dependency pallet that cares two patients.

The AME pallets were installed inside the Boeing 757 and test flown on Monday 14 June. The medical systems were tested in flight and with the exception of minor alterations to equipment and procedures it was very successful.

The Air Force Staff Officer Aeromedical Evacuation, Squadron Leader Jude Telford says, "Its been a long time in the planning and a huge milestone has been achieved to get to this stage. We had several health professionals (two doctors, one from Middlemoore Hospital Auckland and one from Bay of Plenty DHB Tauranga plus an ICU flight nurse from Care flight) aboard with us and they were very impressed with what we have achieved."

“The recent Antarctic operations to the Ross Sea ice shelf and the AME capability are examples of these roles. The AME capability is a National asset and provides choice and flexibility to the New Zealand government. It contributes greatly to New Zealand's range of defence outputs which could include, disaster relief, contribution to a military coalition; evacuation of injured NZ citizens in an area of sudden conflict (e.g. Thailand) or in response to a terrorist attack whether or not New Zealands nationals were involved", says Wing Commander Steve Hunt, AME Project Manager.

It’s expected to be between 12 - 18 months before the capability is fully realised within NZDF. Using the Air Force Boeing 757 gives New Zealand modern economic airline running costs while delivering military multi-role capabilities.

Press Release: New Zealand Defence Force


From: Malcolm Porter, Upton-upon-Severn
Sent: June-01-10 03:03
Subject: Ramblings

Hi Tony,

I am now acting on behalf of a client in trying to find a Gnat as a gate guard - or airstrip guard here at Defford. He wanted a Lightning but I fear none are around. Am also moving old scrap aircraft around this week; a Vampire and a Sea Hawk that have attracted attention from Brooklands.

Then it's off to California. My partner in writing had an article published in the US Magazine "PilotMag" and we are now embarking on a tour of Van Nuys with the owner of the DC-2 (yes DC2!), a DC3, P-51 and a B-17.

I have to then put my head down and start this book "Cargo Tramps."

Best rgds


Thanks Malcolm - have fun in California!

Pain travels through your body at 350 ft. per second

RAAF Movements Mustering



From: Keith Parker, Melksham
Sent: June-02-10 11:56
Subject: 45th Entry Boy Entrant Suppliers

Hi Tony

Would you please put a notice in the next OBA Briefs to ask if there are any ex-members of the 45th Entry Suppliers interested in attending our bi-annual bash in Hereford on the weekend of 20/21st Nov 2010. So far we have 22 names and we are looking for more.

Anyone interested please contact me by e-mail or ring 01225 709238, a good time is assured by all.

Many thanks


Left click for a full-size picture (with names) and backspace to return

In ancient Japan, public contests were held to see who could fart the loudest and longest

RAF`s Bravo November Returns From Afghanistan

Almost thirty years since it entered service, veteran of the Falklands campaign, the RAF's ZA718 Chinook helicopter, or 'Bravo November' as it is better known, has just returned from service in

The original aircraft, a Mk1 (HC1), came into service in 1982 and was the sole survivor of Operation Corporate. Three other Chinooks were shipped down to the Falkland Islands but were lost when the MV Atlantic Conveyor was sunk by Argentine Exocet missiles 25 May 82

Bravo November was airborne from the Atlantic Conveyor on an air test at the time and therefore diverted to land on HMS Hermes

Bravo November has been subject to numerous upgrades during her service and with upgraded engines and avionics is now the impressive HC2 version.

Having been rebuilt several times during her service, few parts of the original aircraft survive today, but the main fuselage, the manufacturer's data plate in the cockpit and the RAF's serial number ZA718 clearly emblazoned on the rear of the aircraft remain ever present.

The Chinook fleet is a vital element of the lift capability being undertaken by the Joint Helicopter Force (Afghanistan) under the command of Wing Commander 'Spats' Paterson.

The tri-Service detachment comprises personnel from all three Services and operates Chinook, Sea King, Merlin, Lynx and Apache helicopters. Bravo November has been supporting the coalition forces that comprise the International Security Assistance Force. Flight Lieutenant Leon Fisher, a Chinook pilot in Afghanistan, described the types of missions that the Chinook fleet undertake:

"The Chinook fleet generally support various types of tasking including delivering personnel, stores and equipment to the Forward Operating Bases and Patrol Bases or participating in 'deliberate operations' that insert and extract coalition forces into the area of operations.

"It's most notable missions have been supporting the Medical Emergency Response Team [MERT]." He added that the MERT missions are 'immensely rewarding':"The team of medics that extract the casualties are saving the lives of British and coalition personnel. We also extract Afghan security forces and local personnel, providing life-saving first aid or movement to hospital facilities."

Bravo November shows the scars of a hard tour in Helmand province but Chinook pilot Flight Lieutenant Rockingham-Smith continues to sing the praises of the veteran helicopter which he says is 'rugged, resilient and the best aircraft for the job'.

Several months ago Flight Lieutenant Ian Fortune was hit by a ricochet on his flying helmet from a bullet fired at Bravo November by Taliban insurgents during an extraction of injured soldiers.

Other marks are noticeable along the fuselage and other Chinooks possess the scars of battle but Flight Lieutenant Fisher firmly states that 'the Chinook is the Queen of the skies'.

Bravo November is also held in high regard by engineers that maintain the Chinooks in very difficult climatic conditions.

The Junior Engineering Officer of the Chinook fleet in theatre, Flight Lieutenant Nigel Murphy, said his team were 'aware of the helicopter's pedigree but Bravo November is not singled out for special treatment, airworthiness is the key to what we do'.

His team work hard to ensure that the fleet is available to support operations twenty-four-hours-a-day and he added that 'it is nice to have Bravo November come through another campaign safely'.

It could have been all so different as, during the Falklands campaign, Squadron Leader Dick Langworthy and his co-pilot Flight Lieutenant Andy Lawless were flying the aircraft at night through a thick snow shower when the crew lost their horizon references which resulted in the aircraft hitting the sea.

After the event Flight Lieutenant Lawless said: "We were lucky, because if we had hit solid ground we would have been dead. We hit at 100 knots [185km/h]. The bow wave came over the cockpit window as we settled and the engines partially flamed out. I knew we had ditched, but I was not sure if we had been hit. "Dick said he thought we had been hit by ground fire. As the helicopter settled, the bow wave reduced. We had the collective still up and the engine wound up as we came out of the water like a cork out of a bottle. We were climbing!"

During the incident, one of the other two crewmen, Flight Lieutenant Tom Jones, lost his flying helmet and fearing the helicopter was about to break up was considering jumping from the helicopter. Another crewman indicated to him to put another helmet on and he then discovered the aircraft was successfully climbing and had just passed 1,500 feet (460m). Remarkably, Bravo November suffered little damage although its radio antenna was ripped from the aircraft, there was damage to the fuselage, and the cockpit door was ripped off.

Without an antenna, radio communication with British forces could not be established, so when approaching San Carlos Squadron Leader Langworthy left all the lights on, hoping that the team operating the missile defences would realise that they were friendly.

No Argentine aircraft would fly so high or with the lights on, but, unbeknown to the crew, personnel at San Carlos could hear Bravo November's calls, although the crew could not receive their replies.

On 2 June 1982 two companies of paratroopers were flown from Goose Green to seize the settlement of Fitzroy. Eighty-one paratroopers squeezed into Bravo November which is twice the normal capacity. Once landed, Bravo November returned to Goose Green to pick up a second load of seventy-five paratroopers.

By the time the Argentines surrendered, Bravo November had notched up over a hundred flying hours, and carried some 1,500 troops, 95 casualties, 650 prisoners of war and 550 tonnes of cargo.

Squadron Leader Langworthy was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC) for his bravery at the controls of Bravo November during the Falklands conflict. Sadly though he died of a heart attack a year later after returning to the Falkland Islands to command the Chinook detachment. Fittingly, Bravo November was on the strength of the unit at the time and the Air Force Board approved the placing of a plaque commemorating his DFC in the cockpit.

During the Iraq invasion of 2003, Bravo November was the first helicopter to land Royal Marines on the Al-Faw peninsula. The Captain, Squadron Leader Steve Carr, flew several waves and during the second run a firefight developed around the aircraft. For his leadership and bravery, Squadron Leader Carr was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross - Bravo November's second.

A veteran of other operational campaigns, Bravo November has also seen service in Northern Ireland, the Balkans, the Lebanon evacuation and earthquake relief in Kurdistan. Now a veteran of several Afghanistan tours, Bravo November is still going strong.

She is now benefiting from major servicing at her home station of RAF Odiham. A key facet of the servicing will include the fitting of even more powerful engines that will make her even more capable in the 'hot and high' operating environment of Afghanistan.

However, before her next operational deployment she will soon be gracing the skies of the United Kingdom supporting the mission rehearsals and exercises of British troops preparing for Operation HERRICK - the United Kingdom's support to the international coalition in Afghanistan.


From: Gerry Davis, Bedminster
Sent: June-03-10 14:39
Subject: Living in Spain

Hi Tony,

I don’t know whether any of you have thought of living in Spain? I have, but soon gave up the idea. My first visit there was in 1968, when I came back from Cyprus. The wife and I (she being born there) sailed from Southampton to Vigo.

We stayed in her parent’s lovely villa, which has since become our property. We are situated in Galicia, on the coast between La Coruna and Vigo.The area is known as the Costa del Muerta (Coast of Death). It is lovely in the summers and bleak and cold in the winter. The Villa is only a hundred metres from the sea with views to die for. We have 8 rooms, two bathrooms two kitchens. All rooms are fully furnished to a high standard. We also have a car park that can accommodate up to 5 cars.

In those early days I found it difficult to adjust to the way of life and the language. The populace speak Gaegan, one of the 4 Spanish languages. We have over the years had a lot of alterations done, both by contractors, who’s standard of work is superb, and myself. We have stayed for varying lengths of time from three months in the summer to two weeks in the winter.

Like any house that’s not occupied full time, it needs lots of T.L.C. We have never thought of letting it out. Our visits these days are by air. I have on several occasions taken the ferry, but am getting too old for the 9-hour journey from Santander.

The wife and I have also explored most of the rest of Spain, especially the south, where most of the Brits seem to congregate. There are a lot of Brits who have tales of woe to tell of the dealings with the Spanish officialdom. Recently with the devaluation of the Pound against the Euro, many are feeling the pinch. Spain is no longer a cheap place to live.

Simple things, like making an insurance claim, can be mind blowing. The requirement for paperwork is astounding. Everything of course in Spanish. You have to show your National Identity card, just about for everything, for instance, making any large purchase. Both sides being photocopied. You have to be aware when driving, have all the relevant documents at hand, and sufficient cash for any fines given at the roadside. You must have a day-glow jacket, tools to change a wheel and a set of two luminous triangles. There are a lot of traffic accidents, mostly being caused through drink and drugs, throughout Spain.

We are in the process of selling the villa, although it’s complicated, we have had to employ a lawyer to trail through all the history of the land. Things have been brought up that we could never have dreamed of. Hopefully it will be resolved before we are too old to travel.

I am off again shortly, third time this year, probably not the last, lots to do, people to see etc.


Babies are born without knee caps

From: John Holloway, Shrewsbury
Sent: June-08-10 10:59
Subject: NSRAFA Cosford Branch

Hi Tony

Today's meeting at Cosford went well. We had one of our members give us a talk of his days in the RAF but his main subject was his hobby. He gave us a talk on target shooting and has taken part in many competitions including shooting at Bisley. He brought his target rifle for us to see, a Carl Gustav 63 a 7.62 calibre rifle and a selection of ammo that is used.

Also he brought a copy of a news article in which it said that the Royal Marines serving in Afghanistan have become the first British troops to be issued with a powerful new rifle on the front line.

Members of 40 Commando have begun using the Sharpshooter rifle in battles with the Taliban in dangerous Sangin in Helmand province. It is a new semi-automatic weapon that fires a 7.62 round; larger than the Army's standard issue SA80 A2 assault rifle and is more accurate over long distances.

At our May meeting we should have had a chap who spent 10 years in the French Foreign Legion which we were all looking forward to but we were disappointed as he was unable to attend but hopefully maybe sometime in the future. I did a Google on his name and a website came up with it;it looks as though he has been a bit of a 'soldier of fortune'as it appears he was in the Rhodesian Light Infantry fighting Mugabee's terrorists for three years.

I mentioned in an earlier Brief that a pal of mine was doing a cruise from Dubai which took in Salalah and Steamer Point but saw nothing that he recognised at Salalah and they missed Steamer Point in Aden as it was decided not to dock as some American tourists and their taxi driver had been kidnapped and it was deemed too dangerous to land there.

Hope the foregoing is of interest.



Thanks John - always good to hear from you


From: David Cromb, Brisbane, Qld
Sent: June-09-10 06:23
Cc: Ian Berry
Subject: Comms Gen

Hi Lads,

Well we seem to have drifted apart of late, any known reason or just demands which take precedence, sadly?

All very much the same down here although this bloody foot continues to give concern. Not sure if you were aware I spent Xmas, New Years 09, and our 36th wedding anniversary in Colditz hospital after yet another operation.

The saga continued yet again 13th May when I was hospitalised with the same problem. Major concerns during this stint inside, a second surgeon suggested amputation of the foot. Pleased to say, that is not an option, yet!

It's been a long hard struggle these past 3 yrs 9 months, something has to give before too much longer. It goes without saying my quality of life is rock bottom, not a lot one can get up to when one has a dodgy foot.

Anyway, enough of my plight, how are you two?

As for news here, nowt really to report, other than the fact I sold my business 4 weeks ago. Now in semi-retirement but plans afoot for a small consultancy business. I will not be able to handle sitting around all day doing nothing. I shall travel the great Oz interior eventually, but not until I am fully fit again,one way or another. I thought,albeit briefly of visiting Oman again, but decided against it. I prefer to keep my memories as they are.

Phyl continues to show no interest in retirement although her 65th is only 3 weeks away. As always, a tower of strength for me. Chris is fine and has settled into a relationship. Chantal, well she continues to astound all around her, take care i may be a tad bias there.

My autobiography has stalled yet again and Iwonder at times if I shall ever finish it, time will tell. Still it gives me a great deal of satisfaction and I shall persevere with it.

Tomlinson and I keep in touch, but he is frightfully busy and most often our plans for an ale or ten are postponed. Steve sees more of Phyl at the airport than he does of me!

I leave you here with the request to keep in touch, we need to do it.

Take care, hi to all who have the misfortune to remember me.



Good to hear from you again DC - it seems you changed your e-mail address and forgot to tell anyone! In the meantime that's a raw deal on the foot thing, but it seems we all have bits and pieces falling off occasionally. I'm just waiting to go under the scalpel again, have to get this back sorted.

The average person spends three years of his or her life on a toilet

From: Ian Berry, West Swindon
Sent: June-10-10 04:29
To: David Cromb
Subject: Comms General

Hi Dave & Tony,

Sorry to hear you have had problems with the "Shark bite!"... a penalty offshoot of diabetes I believe?

I was at the RAFA Club last night for a Committee Meeting and was ambushed by Babs Sugg who was enquiring about your welfare as she had heard nothing from you - now I know the reason and will pass on your new e-mail address.

I am still quite fit although I find work stressful and am waiting to see when I get redundancy but that could be another year yet!

I've attached a couple of pics of our recent trip to Libya as we managed to get on the Base after bringing "gifts" for the Maj Gen Tobruk Garrison who then ordered the Brig Gen, OC Gamel Abdul Nasser Airfield (Formerly RAF El Adem), to let us on.


First row are "before and after" pics for you - 43 years apart!

One pic is of Christine stood in the old Trim Office where my desk was – 1 inch of sand now on the floor... It was good to "bury the ghost" though and now I have made the pilgrimage. I have oodles of pics of Libya and a lot more of El Adem

Anyway enough for now and keep in touch!



From: Paul Stanford, Chelmsford
Sent: June-11-10 08:19
Subject: RE: UKMAMS Old Bods Association - An Invitation

Hi Tony,

Thank you very much for your message and details of the OBA - congratulations in producing an excellent web page, well done!

I met Alex [Masson] through our local RAFA Club where we are both active, Alex being one of the wise old boys and me being a fresh young thing (relatively speaking) only having left the RAF 3 years ago. It was good to find that Alex was a Mover and when he recently shared a story the memories of my 28 years in the mob soon came flooding back!

I looked briefly at your OBA members listing and I recognised many names – (Dave Allen, , Terry Mulqueen, Martin Ligett, Tony Geerah, Neil Baldock et al) all of whom I have lost touch with – so it will be good to touch base with them again.

I joined as a Mover back in 1978 and had tours with Movements Flights/Squadrons at Wyton, Wildenrath (briefly), Rheindahlen and Wittering before taking a commission and going through Supply training. Didn’t take me long to get back to the fold though with my first ‘real’ job being at Lyneham as the Air Cargo Officer. This coincided with the first Gulf push (Op Granby if memory serves) so a busy little episode! I did an OC Supply Flt job, a short operational NATO tour and other command appointments before getting an interesting little post out in Torrejon, Spain as the Brit Liaison Officer (I was the first person to get this post, so another challenging appointment getting things up and running from bare-base). My reward (!) for surviving 3 years in Spain was to be sent to Iraq (Basarah/Shibah) in 2006 for a bit of excitement.

I’m now back with my wife and 3 sons (that I missed growing up) and working for the County Council in the depths of Essex. A very different sort of life but a little more settled.

Best regards,


Thanks Paul and welcome to the OBA - I trust you will be able to renew some old friendships very quickly!

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New Zealand seeks three new military transports

New Zealand plans to purchase smaller turboprop aircraft for maritime surveillance and military transport applications.

"It is likely to be three aircraft to begin with," says defence minister Wayne Mapp. The requirement will be outlined in the country's defence review document, a White Paper due to be released in September, he says.

New Zealand's air force has been using Lockheed Martin C-130Hs for transport and Lockheed P-3K Orions for maritime patrol.

"In the past, the thinking was that New Zealand only required these larger aircraft, but now the thinking is that having a smaller aircraft for some missions might be more practical," says Mapp.

New Zealand used to operate smaller aircraft for such missions, but phased out its Fokker F27 maritime patrol aircraft in the late 1980s and its Hawker Siddeley Andover transports in the 1990s.

Mapp says the three aircraft it now plans to purchase must be able to perform transport and maritime surveillance work in the South Pacific. New Zealand is often called on by its poorer neighbours to help with disaster relief and humanitarian aid.

Airbus Military CN235

Bombardier Dash 8 - Q300

Mapp says the two aircraft types in contention are the Airbus Military CN-235 and the Bombardier Dash 8 Q300. The Alenia Aeronautica ATR 42MP has not been considered, he adds.

Air New Zealand's subsidiary Air Nelson already operates Q300s, so it could help maintain the type for the air force, in the same way that Air New Zealand once maintained the air force's F27s.

Mapp says one advantage with Bombardier turboprops is that the aircraft is "a bit faster". Australia's Coastwatch system also uses Bombardier turboprops, he adds.

However, EADS says the CN-235 has an advantage because it has a rear cargo ramp, which makes it more practical for military transport tasks



From: Terry O'Connor, Liverpool
Sent: June-08-10 10:42
Subject: My Grandad


My name is Terry and I am the grandson of Terry Alfonso.

I know that my grandad read your newsletter with great regularity and enjoyed it very much. My grandad died on Sunday surrounded by his family after a 3 year battle with cancer.

He asked me to do two things for him in the middle of last week. The first was to send a donation to the Old Bods Association with the message "Keep the MAMS flag flying!" The other was to send you a picture, so that you would put it in your newsletter.

I have attached the picture he wanted you to have to this e-mail. If you could please put it in then that would be brilliant.

If there is a problem then please do not hesisate in contacting me.


Terry O'Connor

Thanks Terry - and thanks to all those who sent in messages of condolence - it was appreciated

Dolphins nap with one eye open

Farmers in England are required by law to provide their pigs with toys


In Japan, condoms are commonly sold 'door to door'

This issue is dedicated to the memory of Terry Alfonso